October 18, 2017
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  • Anonymous

    I can not believe it, if Liepage cannot create jobs he will lower the unemployment rate this way, LOL, good luck proving fraud when the only jobs are minimum wage.

  • StillRelaxin

    They acknowledge that “We do not have a high rate of fraud.” But what the hey, stirring up those who simply won’t acknowledge facts with a “Sweeping Unemployment Fraud Bill” really reels in the haters who vote GOP/Tea Party because of false perceptions such as this. So in the end rather than “Put people before politics” Mr. LePage and crew demonstrate a desire to put political maneuvering before people and are therefore providing us here with yet another example of giving us lies instead of the truth and solidifying power rather than working to create jobs. Thanks for nothing again Paul.

    • Anonymous

      Report Unemployment Fraud
      Unemployment insurance fraud is a crime. You can report instances of unemployment
      fraud, questions and suspicions by phone, email, fax, or mail.
      Your name can be kept Confidential.

      Call the Benefits Division at (207) 621-5100
      or the Unemployment Claim Center at 1-800-593-7660.

      Send info to Mr. Gerry Parent in one of the following formats:

      Email to: Gerald.P.Parent@Maine.gov
      Fax to (207) 287-8351
      Mail to:
      Bureau of Unemployment Compensation
      Attn: Mr. Jerry Parent
      47 State House Station
      Augusta, ME 04333-0047
      CONFIDENTIAL

      Do All three, Phone, E-mail and send a Letter.
      Follow-up in 30 days with a Certified letter if no response.
      Send a letter Directly to the Governor’s Office, that should get their attention.
      Keep a written log of actions and attempts to notify.
      Hold them Responsible!

    • jimbobhol

      Yawn!!!!!!!

      • Guest

        Yawn, as in I can’t reasonably debate your post without looking stupid so I’m going to keep typing yawn.      : (

        Or is that YAWN I haven’t downloaded my FOX/ Rush talking points, and until I know what to type I will keep typing YAWN.   ; )

        • jimbobhol

          Yawn!!!1

        • Anonymous

          Yawn!!

        • Joe

          Ditto…..YAWN^10

          • Anonymous

            Okay kids (Keenov, jimbobhol, wetheminion, Joe), its’ time to stop.  Mommy and Daddy are around.

          • Joe

            Buzz Kill :]

    • Anonymous

      Here comes governor “chicken little” again. Run, Run the sky is falling. Quick pass my DHHS budget proposal.

    • Anonymous

      This is a good thing. If the state can help employers to save a bigger portion of the 1.3M that was  spent in just one year, maybe the money will be used by employers to provide new jobs. However…
      This program is funded completely by employers, which means that the fraud isn’t costing the state, it’s costing employers, right? Much of the fraud comes from over-payments and under-payments  which may be a result of confusion among state workers caused (of course) by Congress. So maybe we could train these people to be less confused? Because if the governor could fix that, then we could say he’d fixed something that was broken and that there would be a financial benefit, if not to the taxpayers then at least to Maine Employers. That, I repeat, is a good thing with positive trickle-down benefits.
      Now, once he’s worked on this fraud/confusion issue, maybe he could find a welfare  program that is costing taxpayers huge amounts of money because of fraud. Maybe he could save us money that way, too. Take the people who are currently spending much of their time re-wording his comments and doing damage control after he speaks. Maybe they could spend their time doing something beneficial to taxpayers. Maybe they could find a way to deal with welfare fraud and Maincare fraud. They’d probably be able to cover their own and many other salaries. Keep in mind though, that would mean that LePage would have to police his own comments and get down to business. I don’t hold out much hope of that happening. Too bad. His time in office is running short.

      • Anonymous

        Could you repeat that comment again please!

        • Anonymous

          It’s great that he’s monitoring fraud and eliminating inefficiencies for Maine employers in the area of unemployment. Why can’t he apply the same methods to monitoring fraud, creating revenue and eliminating inefficiencies in all areas of state government for taxpayers? Maybe if he would expend less energy on being abrasive and obnoxious he could get these things done – or at least started. (Is that easier?) 

          • Anonymous

            He promised to make Maine more business friendly. Too many employers have had the experience of having their hands tied by the government to prevent employees from abusing unemployment benefits.

            That said, I don’t know where posters here got the idea the state doesn’t pay for jobless benefits. It surely does in the first 26 weeks of jobless benefits from a pool of special tax monies collected from employers. So far at least three states have run out of this money. This has caused Congress to approve money for them to borrow from. Eventually these borrowed funds will be paid back indirectly by employers through the state pool.

          • Anonymous

            It might have been the following quote from BDN:
            “Peter Gore, Vice President of the Maine State Chamber of Commerce said his organization believes reducing fraud and errors is important to employers, because they pay the entire cost of the system through a tax on employers.”

          • Anonymous

            Maine’s Unemployment Trust Fund is the third strongest in the nation at over 336 million in reserves, mostly because of low benefits and rules that have made Maine the fifth lowest state for fraud at 0.54% of cases. Maine DOL’s study shows that only 3 out of 10 unemployed workers that are eligible for unemployment benefits apply to receive  benefits. This is another red herring by my countryman, Paul LePage.

          • Anonymous

            I don’t care if there is a gazillion dollars in the trust fund. I can tell you the half percentage rate of fraud you indicated is far greater than what is actually going on. The rate you indicate is the proven or detected rate. What I am telling you is that many employers have been reporting fraud but the state does nothing about it because of unreasonable policies on the books that LePage wants to change.

    • Anonymous

      if he was in canada he would club baby seals

  • Anonymous

    When I worked for CIANBRO they would keep the friends and relatives of the suckups in Pittsfield  and layoff all of the good help they had every fall, pocket the profit sharing and hire them back in the spring. That being said, who do you think is more fraudulent?  

  • Guest

    At some point is the penguin going to address the job situation in this state???  Remember “OPEN FOR BUSINESS”   When the penguin was pitching jobs I didn’t think he would put up the signs and that would be it, problem solved everyone!  We got the  signs !   What a JOKE!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      “What a Joke”.  I find it interesting the liberals on here always want to attack LePage for doing his job.  But refuse to see the mess they created the last 36 years.  Then when he asks for their alternative proposals they attack him and call his proposals extreme.  The only things that are extreme is their failed economic policies of the last 40 years, their expansion of Welfare , and their sick and twisted social issues they want to ram down our throats. They haven’t done a darn thing.

      • Anonymous

        Easy with that ram down the throat thing, recent topics are beyond engaging.

      • Anonymous

        They just said, once again, that the “mess” Poor Paul is attacking does not exist, or is pitifully low. Ten cents of our tax dollars go towards welfare. Does anyone really believe that we are going to solve all our budget problems by throwing all they “bums” off of welfare? Or going after the 1% of fraud in unemployment? You would have to be “Tea Party” numb to believe that. If a business or individual had a 40 history of failed economic policies, they would no longer exist. Just how has the state continued to function with all these perceived failed policies? We can’t print money. We haven’t raised taxes that much. According to Tea Party rhetoric, we should have been bankrupt 30 years ago.

      • Anonymous

        I find it interesting that LIEpage and his right wing goons want to try and track down $1 million in fraud when he could easily order the prosecution of current speaker of the house ROBert Nutting (R) for stealing $1.25 million from MaineCare. Talk about not having done a darn thing.

      • Anonymous

        oh no, here we go again, past 36 years, past 40 years omg, these were the best years going for the working class and where all the rich folks got ahead. What a bunch of cry babies. now you just want more for doing nothing.

      • Anonymous

        Again darkcat, do your research. There have been numerous republican and independent governors in the last 40 years. If you’re honest, people might start giving your posts some credibility, but with this 40 years crap over and over you just sound like a fool.

      • Anonymous

        5 mil in errors,  vs. 1 mil in fraud.  That’s like fixing a dripping faucet instead of the hole at the bottom of a hot water heater.  You can work upright on the faucet,  and who’s going to go in the basement and see the problem with the water heater?

      • Anonymous

        Yawn…

    • Justin Cox

      Again, not a Lepage fan but he has done far more than Baldacci did in 8 years.  By cutting red tape and fixing the abuses in this State employers may just want to setup shop here.   Take a look at New Hampshire…They are doing something right.  That something right is not taxing the hell out of business.  They also have less people on welfare and less abuse of the system.

      • Anonymous

        I lived there for 22 years. Many people actually work in Massachusetts and live in NH. The jobs in southern NH are mainly gas station/quicky mart attendant, working in a restaurant, or something similar. Rents and property taxes are ridiculous, which is one reason why I moved back to Maine. I would not allow most of the people I met there into my home. When I left Manchester drug gangs were moving in. It has become worse since I left.

        • Anonymous

          Wait. Isn’t New Hampshire the object of our governor’s affection? How can this be?

      • Lord Whiteman

        Lepage’s budget is 6.3 billion dollars Baldacci’s was 5.8 billion….If Lepage is such a great guy why are we spending 500 million more since he go here?

      • Anonymous

        Are you trying to say that LePage has done something to reduce the cost of doing business in Maine? If so how do you explain the increases we keep having on our unemployment rate. My company has never laid anyone off in over 27 years but our rate keeps going up. LePage is making a big deal out of how he “reformed” insurance, but our premiums for group insurance went up. If this is the way LePage is helping Maine business I hope he stops it pretty damned soon.

        • Anonymous

          A business owner just had to drop his employees health benifit %100, because his premiums were higher than his payroll. Good job LePage. You really helped ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • When was the last time your insurance went down? And if your unemployment rate has never gone down, then you would have had to have layoffs because our unemployment rate in my business fluctuates up and down. When unemployment is high, it goes up and when it is low, it goes down and we have never had a claim in our 33 year history.

          Having said all of that, what’s any of that have to do with LePage? Did you really expect him to come in and in a year put everyone back to work? Did you really think that the cost of health care was going down? Did you honestly believe that this State could be changed immediately if not sooner?

      • Exactly what is NH doing right?  they have higher unemployment than ME.

      • Anonymous

        you suppose its because they have more jobs?

      • Anonymous

        You don’t think being within commuting distance of Boston has anything to do with it?

  • Anonymous

    LePage wont be happy untill we are all jobless, homeless and hungry. 

    • Anonymous

      Boy, you surely got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning! Take cover, the sky is falling!

  • Anonymous

    More time wasted on a problem that doesn’t exist.

    More time wasted on GOP “feel good” legislation that will not help to create a single job.

    yessah

    • Anonymous

      From reading this it looks like the state employees are the biggest problem, not doing their job.
      $5,186,120 in errors.  (ERRORS), Wow And where did the focus go, on fraud. GEEEEZZZ

      • Anonymous

        you got it bub!!
        The fraud is always from with in.
        I bet they didnt send out retro cecks either.
        You bet if they caught you collecting a extra check in error YOU WILL PAY it back.

        I think LePage needs to do a lot of INTERNAL investigaring. TEAR that place up!!!
        It seems most of the fraud is done in the office.

  • Anonymous

    If it’s there, correct it… Time for those working “under the table” to “float to the top”!

  • Anonymous

    This guy is pitiful.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no reason, nor funds or any necessity to spend money to run after a problem that our current laws cover.   This is the MDOL’s commissioner trying to jump on board of the welfare fraud, band wagon.    People that are unemployed don’t need scrutiny, they need jobs.   People that have a job within an administration that questions them,  perhaps, may find themselves looking for one.

    There is no way any one of his Commissioner’s are going to offer a proposal without his knowing about it, moreover, come out against his own Commissioner’s support of the bill. We aren’t idiots!

    Enough is enough.   What happened to the state of the State fluffy marshmallow speech?    This is his Commissioner proposing this.   Le Page is setting up his dirty work for his Commissioner’s.   That’s a classic move.  There’s no way he wouldn’t have known about this proposal,   he’s playing the press.

    He knows that there is a legislative election this year. He knows that he has upset his own party and that he stand a viable chance of losing both houses. He knows that if that happens he won’t get the bills on his desk that he would be willing to sign and hopes that he will have the votes not to over ride them. He is in a precarious position, but to resort to sacrificing your own appointee’s and cabinet members to toot your horn while you publicly say that another thing is nothing but a recipe for disaster, how many have quit within the first year? They did so because that wasn’t what they signed up for, they had principles.

  • Theft by deception of more than $10,000 is a class B felony with a prison sentence of up to 10 years and a fine of up to $20,000.  So the proposed unemployment fraud would impose a sentence of up to 10 years.  Sounds pretty much the same.  Could this possibly be a political ploy?

  • Anonymous

    If businesses didn’t have to pay such a high unemployment tax, they’d have more money to hire more workers, that’s how going after the fraud can help create jobs.  Also, the unemployment system under Baldacci has become another welfare program.  I’ve seen people fired for stealing from their employers only to collect unemployment because it was “just their first offense”.  How many times should a person be allowed to steal before it is considered wrong?

    The bottom line is Maine businesses have been being crushed by decades of rules passed by Augusta putting the cost of everything on the employer.  As a result the employers are dying and along with them so is the economy.  Maybe if employees had to pay half of the unemployment tax (like it is in Canada) employees may feel different about unemployment fraud?

    • Anonymous

      I know exactly what you are talking about.  A friend of mine fired his employee as she was insubordinate towards him and was using inventory for personal use that was not allowed. She filed and he appealed.  There was documentation of her work place misdeeds and they were made known. But at the end of it all she got to walk away with making 352 dollars a week for the next 26 weeks.

      • Frankly, I doubt this story very much. If they had documented theft, there is no way they would lose. Someone is lying to you.

        • Anonymous

          The employer came into work early and found her making herself breakfast while she should have been making bread. Now I doubt very much he called the police over it. However he did write her up for it and said that he did mention that she was written up for that and several other things and that she had signed the write-up slips. However she still got her unemployment.

        • Anonymous

          Actually, I have a very similar story. I had an employee that was insubordinate on several occasions. All well documented. He was fired after his 3rd offense. He applied for unemployment, siting that he was “layed off.”  I provided all the necessary documentation showing that he was in fact “fired”. I was convinced it would go no further so you can imagine my surprise when I discovered he won his benefits. To this day,  I still don’t understand why. 

      • Wow $352 a week on unemployment? Thats a good paying job, unemployment is what… idk remember exactly but like 3/5 of your working income? That sound right? Anyway unemployment is nowhere near what you were making working, and this person wasn’t too bright to put a good paying job like that at risk.

        • Anonymous

          The amount you are entitled to is roughly 35 percent of the wages that you made over a previous employment cycle. So say you make 21000 a year, you would qualify for roughly over 7400 dollars in payments over 26 weeks. Divide that by 26 weeks and that is what your base would be. The thing is it doesnt get figured that way for some reason. There are figures for getting a large check if you make over 15500 dollars in two pay quarters as well as if you got laid off from a lack of work. In talking to people who have collected before they all have said they were getting about 350 dollars or so a week, regardless of what their salary had been as long as it was under 30 dollars.

        • pbmann

          I was making over $800 a week when I lost my job and I only recieved $359 a week before taxes (yes unemployment is taxable income).

      • pbmann

        I know a person who was fired for missing work after she was in a car accident and the employer appealed her unemployment and she did not recieve any unemployment so either you friend was not entirely truthful or his grounds for appeal were not strong.

        • Anonymous

          I think it is on a per case basis. I also know a woman who had to quit her job due to the boss being a huge jerk to her. Regulations say you cannot quit your job and get unemployment. Well she applied anyway and at some point(I dont know if it was due to an appeal on her part) there was a conference call between her, her boss, and the unemployment official. The employer acted so badly on the phone that the unemployment officer determined that the woman quit only as a result of extremely poor working conditions and she received benefits.

          • pbmann

            I know a women who had to quit her job to save her marraige and she was able to get unemployment so it is on a case by case basis which I think is the correct way to do something like this.

            My fear is that LePage will take away the flexibility necessary to be fair in real life situations.

          • Anonymous

            My Senator has told me is that they are really looking at going after people who collect unemployment from a seasonal job while they are earning money through things like plowing driveways, or earning unreported income from self employment. The other thing they are looking at are people that have any income that is not be reported such as annuity payments or income from rental property.
            I had a coworker that would collect Unemployment all winter after getting laid of as a server at the resort we worked at. That was fine but she would then go to Florida and stay there for a month visiting her family. During that time she was collecting unemployment while not in Maine nor looking for a job. Both of which are requirements of continuing to get unemployment.

          • pbmann

            I do know that if you have a designated call back date you do not have to search for work.  I don’t know if that was why she did not have to search for work or not.  Or she could have been putting down job searches in FL, you do not have to look for a job in Maine to remain eligible.

          • Anonymous

            Im not so sure. I have been on unemployment and told them I had a return to work date in April after being laid off for lack of work in mid November. I got work logs and requests for those logs every five weeks.

          • Anonymous

            Doesn’t Maine have a limit on what money you can earn part time while collecting unemployment?  It’s probably more than zero.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, you have to report the money you earn and then send in proof of the earnings, then the amount you get is adjusted. This delays the payment for that week by one additional week. The point is that people are making money by getting paid cash and then not reporting it as they are required to.

          • Anonymous

            Go romney

          • Anonymous

            I would like to know who your Senator is because this law will apply to all workers, nit just seasonal. They can’t just pick and choose.

          • Anonymous

            Maybe I dont make it clear. The proposed laws to combat fraud will apply to everyone.
            The reason news laws and penalties are being proposed are related to some of the situations I mention in my post. All fraud is going to be investigated but the state has identified that the areas I mention are of special concern.

          • Anonymous

            where is maine? you know george H.W. bush pays no state of maine income taxes (and he earns millions every year)? cause? because he calls his home Texas and Texas has no state income tax like Florida, ring a bell Lepage?) and lives here six months out the year. And i went to work in new mexico for two years and still had my home in maine and paid state taxes in new mexico and maine? go figure? lepage doesnt give working people credit and he doesnt have a record of working a day in his life for his money? and you think running mardens is a graet acccomplishment among his fellow repuds? he is just trying to build his reputation as a successful Bman on the backs of working,sick, and disabled people.

    • Anonymous

      Maine business is being crushed by “free” trade and corrupt politicians in Washington. Not unemployment fraud. Do you have any clue as to how heavily the unemployment and workmen’s comp system in Maine is stacked in favor of the employer? I have been an employee and an employer. It kind of gives you a little different perspective. I worked for a contractor that handed out rubber paychecks on a regular basis. He said everyone did it and it was just part of doing business. I quit and filed for unemployment. It took three appeals before I finally prevailed in what should have been an open and shut case. 

    • Anonymous

      Would reducing an already very low rate sinificantly decrease the per business unemployment tax?  I doubt it.

    • Anonymous

      I seriously doubt that reducing unemployment benefits paid out by 1% is going to change the amount of unemployment tax a business must pay.  Come on!

    • Anonymous

      The cost of the corrections system in 2007 was $122 million, $57,000 per prisoner (the Sun Journal in 2010 put it at $93,5000).  Doubtless the marginal increase per added prisoner is less than this.  Would a possible fractional decrease in the 1% fraud rate, which could scarcely reduce costs to employers, justify the additional costs to the State with sentences of up to 10 years?    

    • Anonymous

      Lies and more Lies.

  • Anonymous

    What the heck, 6.5 million ain’t what it used to be.

  • Anonymous

    Fraud seems to be a big word with the LePage crew.

    DHHS  fraud ! fraud is the ruin! Well it is only 1% of the problem

    Voter fraud !!! Well maybe not so much.

    Unemployment fraud !!!  Well it is really very minimal but it is the reason people are not creating jobs. So now creating jobs really has nothing to do with the condition of our economy.

    What happened to the little man jumping around expounding on how he was going to create these jobs for the people of Maine ? Oh yeah his latest claim in the State of the State was that he can not create jobs in the private sector. Tell Mr LePage is that your final answer ?

    ” People before politics ”  Got to love those campaign slogans. Seems like we are getting lots of politics not so sure ” about the people”

    • Anonymous

      Standard issue conservative talking points:  fraud here and fraud there.  Government is wasteful and full of fraud, etc. 

      Funny that it doesn’t apply to things like nepotism (like when high ranking government officials give their kids jobs that they are unqualified for).  Or when high ranking officials buy a ‘vacation’ house in another State, then claim it’s a primary residence, so that their kids can go to school in that State on a resident discount, but never pay State income tax there.  Government is full of fraud, just not the kind that Penguin wants to talk about.

  • Anonymous

    They ought to have penalties for employers who lie about paying out also then, by this logic.

  • Anonymous

    First it was voter fraud, which turned out to be a lie.  Then it was welfare fraud, for which there is almost no meaningful evidence (remember Penguin preaching about how people supposedly move to Maine so that they can live in the ‘lap of luxury’, likely at Cape Hart, with 3 kids, on food stamps?).  Now we’re going to listen to hysteria about Maine State Housing, whose sole mission is to help low income Mainer’s find stable housing.  What’s next? This attack on Maine’s down and out is ugly.

    • Welfare fraud is real, unemployment fraud is real and voter fraud is real.  What’s not real is people like you that belittle and name call to deflect the truth and what is real.

      • Anonymous

        If you are aware of welfare fraud, then do your civic duty and report it to the authorities.  Until you do that, don’t bother to complain that fraud exists.

        • Anonymous

          All they have is suspicions and innuendo. Unemployment fraud is estimated to be a whopping 1%. So now we should spend millions to ferret out those bums? How much can we afford these warm fuzzies for the Tea Party?

          • Anonymous

            One more time. All this fraud crap is a smoke screen to take the focus off LePages special interest friends paybacks.

          • Anonymous

            And that he doesn’t know how to do anything to really help Maine.

          • Anonymous

            The real fraud in Maine can be found residing at the Blaine House

      • ME has one of the lowest Unemployment fraud rates in the country.  There is no voter fraud, just clerical errors.  There is minimal welfare fraud.  Don’t you read the papers?
        And how exactly will this proposed legislation reduce unemployment fraud?

      • Anonymous

        Corporate welfare is real, too, and not much is being done about that.  

      • Anonymous

        What was that expletive LePage used after meeting with the protesters?

        Real some of that.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait. I am sure it won’t be long. From Criminal James O’Keefe the producer of the  tea party acclaimed blockbusters,  “WELFARE FRAUD” and “FRAUD AT THE POLLS” . His newest and most spectacular production to date ”FRAUD AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE”.  Starring Paul Richard LePage as the fraud preventing Governor, Up and coming starlet
    Laura Boyette in her first starring role as The Director of the Bureau of Unemployment.   “Crazy” Charlie Webster as the wild eyed Republican Party Chairman again sounding the alarm of fraud by the masses.   Follow the thrilling action as  Kevin Raye, Bob Nutting, Debra Plowman  and a cast of dozens of Maine republican legislators craft another law to battle Maine’s newest non-existent problem. Cameo appearances by  “The Grand Wizard” Lance Dutson  and  his clan of highly paid political operatives at the Maine Heritage Policy Center. “FRAUD AT THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE” COMING SOON TO A NEWSCAST NEAR YOU.

    • I hear you but miss your point.  Is all well with Maine government and the people that it supports?

      • Anonymous

        “I hear you but miss your point.”I know. You do that quite often it seems.  

        • Thanks for clearing up the mystery, you had no point.

    • Anonymous

      Hilarious!

  • Justin Cox

    Fraud is Fraud.  Even if one dollar is wasted it is a dollar that could go do someone who needs it.  Same thing with welfare fraud.  I see not problem proposing this bill.

    • Anonymous

      How many tens of thousands of dollars paying investigators, and legislative hours, would you say LePage is justified in spending, in order to prevent every dollar being wasted to fraud?

    • What in this bill prevents fraud?

    • Anonymous

      How much time, energy and money is it going to take to do this?  More than the fraud they will ‘find’.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s see first up he attacks the the State retirees — then he gives out the largest tax cut in history — we all know where the real money went so do not go there with the 19,500 thing

    Next he goes after the elderly, the handicapped, disabled and the children — then in his State of the State he promises another 100 million dollar tax cut

    Now he is going to attack the unemployed

    Where’s the jobs — oh yeah he created one for his daughter

  • Justin Cox

    Besides if they can reduce fraudulant claims it will reduce the amount employers have to pay for unemployment insurance which is quite high might I add.  Hopefully  workmans comp fraud is his next focus.  Guys, I am not a fan of Lepage but these are laws that should be on the books.   Another law needed is if a State employee is caught stealing from the State they forfeit their State retirement..As in the case of the former director of MTA.

    • Anonymous

      Unemployment insurance is paid only on the first $12,000 an employee earns. Rates vary from 4% to 9% or more – depending if the company has laid off people.

    • Anonymous

      Another law? I thought the Tea Partiers despised regulations and laws as inhibiting their ‘freedom’ (we ain’t free, people, by the way – just look at the NDAA where we can be arrested and held indefinitely and the Patriot Act)?  But they sure like laws that disenfranchise people.

  • Lord Whiteman

     While he is at he can pass a law requiring jail time for people who cheat on the property taxes too.

    • Anonymous

      Whoa there pilgrim. Let’s not get carried away. That would affect Poor Paul himself and a lot of his buddies who “homestead” in Florida. 

  • Anonymous

    Unemployment fraud?

    Seriously?

    Unemployment is real.

    Unemployment is not a fraud.

    BDN needs an editor.

    • Anonymous

      Blaming BDN?  How about blaming LePage and his supporters, shadow and otherwise?

  • Anonymous

    Talk about fraud, LePig is the Fraud. This clown lied to the Maine people that he would create jobs for Mainers. The fact is, LePig has lost jobs for Mainers every month since this Fraudster has been in office. Time to arrest LePig for unemployment fraud.

  • Amanda Reynolds-Gregg

    Is this like when they spent of money looking for voter fraud in Maine and found nothing but still wanted to make it harder to commit voter fraud?

    …Because I swear I’m having some flashbacks right now.

    • Anonymous

      He’s causing all of us to have PTSD.  We should all show up at the ERs across the state and say we need help because LePage is our governor.

  • Anonymous

    Lets recap the Highway dept, Maine housing, dhhs,  now unemployment..  He is threatening schools.. This is not over he is gonna mess with everything.. Next it will be SSI, or and SSD..

  • Anonymous

    Biggest joke on here are the Lepage bashers that do nothing but name call on every post.   Grow up.

    • Anonymous

      Who do you work for? Where? Must be affiliated with a statement like that.

      • Anonymous

        Seriously?.. No affiliation with any political party. Please take my advice.

  • Governor LePage is just pandering to his base.  Maine already has a law, theft by deception, with the same penalty that covers unemployment fraud.  Governor LePage has to seem like he is doing something dramatic to rally his followers.  He and the two Charlies do that quite a lot. 

    He says for the benefit of his followers that he has cut taxes.  I checked the tax rates for a couple making $100,000 in taxable income and filing jointly.  Their tax in 2012 was $27 less than it would have been in 2011.  That is 52 cents per week.  You can use your savings to get a 24 ounce coffee at your local Blue Canoe every three or four weeks.

    • pbmann

      I checked the savings for a single man making $34,000 and a single women making $27,500, median wages for each according to the 2010 census, and the man saves a whopping $5 and the women $4 a year in taxes.  Not even enough savings a week to buy a cup of coffee.

  • Anonymous

    Another exmple of how laplague and the rebubs are marching to the tune ALEC and MHPC plays, atacking the workers to the benefit of corporations. This law creates no jobs, does nothing to balance the budget, just creates a lot of hate and discontent.

  • Anonymous

    Once again LIEpage is wasting time and money looking for a magic bullet and Loch Ness Monster all in one. Instead of tracking down $5 million in errors…he is hunting for $1 million in fraud…Which is less than the $1.25 million in MaineCare fraud committed by current speaker of the house ROBert Nutting.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so glad Lepage is looking into this! In my opinion the entire program needs to be looked at.  Unemployment is meant for people have lost their job like a mill closing and so on. I don’t believe it should be meant for peole who CHOOSE to work seasonal jobs to sit and collect unemployment all winter while taking two and three vacations. Unemployment isn’t supposed to mean 6 months of vacation pay! I think a good hard look needs to go into the business owners of seasonal businesses who collect unemployment all winter as well.

    • Anonymous

      that isn’t how unemployment works.  When you file a claim, they look at your work history…and you only get unemployment if you’ve paid unemployment tax.  AND have enough income.  You’re implying you can work at Funtown/Splashtown in teh summer, then sit on your a** all winter taking vacations on unemployment stipend.

      simply not true.

    • Anonymous

      OK that mean that a lot of people that do seasonal as you say should not get unemployment so if those people don’t do seasonal work who will ? What do you do with the people that don’t do seasonal work  ? How  many place would half to shut down  ? How much money would the state lose  ? What about people that work that work at xmass for ll bean at there call centers an people that rake blue berries ect the same for them . Companys could put every one on part time an no one would collect what happens than ?

  • another phony crisis in search of a solution.  Maine has one of the lowest fraud rates in the nation.
    LePage is a serial liar

  • This is classic LePage administration misdirection. Point to a bogey man hiding behind the dresser, so they don’t see the real problem. Blame it on those lazy people who want free healthcare under MaineCare and are too lazy to work and want to get paid unemployment while they sit around doing nothing, etc.

    I recently lost my job and filed a claim. In my mailbox the following day there were SIX separate pieces of mail sent to me by the Dept of Labor. Each of those had postage of 35 cents. That may not be fraud, but it’s certainly waste. How much would that save to consolidate those in one envelope? Times how many people in the state on unemployment. I also noticed in Maine claims are filed weekly instead of biweekly – which I’m quite sure is the norm in just about every state. How much additional cost does that pile on to the program. I bet that alone – shifting to a biweekly system, would save more money than catching every fraudulent claim.

    But actually FIXING things in the system that could save the state money is NOT LePage’s goal. Creating yet another fake enemy to rile up the whackos in the Tea Party, however, IS THE GOAL. So propose a law like this and say you got tough to save the rest of us money… disgusting.

  • Anonymous

    is this state turned into a natzi strong hold? Blame the young,week,old,and now unemployed too.sure there is a few cheats out there but does it require this kind of investigation. This is they way you do bussiness take the first year of your adminstration and attack the taxpayers and recipents of any type of assistance. Most of the people getting medical are there for a reason ? the young cannot defend themselves,and the old have paid the bills all of their lives and this state wants to return nothing for a lifes worth of paying it over burden taxes. I dont mind to pay the taxes if i know someday god forbid i was in a position where my past taxes could make the difference of life or death.
    mr lapage should look a little harder in his life and see what excatly got him where he is,suppose the state at that time cut back and no one stop his abuser,ya see it all depends on him,failure to get proper medical is the same abuse is it not?

  • Guest

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  • Anonymous

    This administration needs to stop this nonsense and put it’s energies into helping Maine people.  There was no voter fraud yet that became a focus.  He steals a mural in the middle of the night and then has to spend time and energy defending it.  He makes caustic, idiotic remarks that does nothing but stir up resentment and anger, helping nobody.  What is his problem?  I think his problem is that he does not know what to do, and so he flails away at people who are the most disadvantaged.  What is wrong with him anyway?

  • Anonymous

    So,.. the argument is fraud is ok?…. Is this what I am hearing from the Libs?

    The administration should not go after those taking advantage of the system?

    I am willing to bet that Everyone posting here knows someone who has taken liberties with the unemployment system, if not yourself, then someone you know.  Whether it was a day, or two,.. or a week or two,.. or a faked “job search” or  phoned in a job search, or some BS story in order to extend their vacation on the backs of the unemployment insurance…. this and more happens daily.

    Like any insurance, this was created to help those who legitimately NEED it,… and like any entity that is overseen by a gov’t body,.. it is too cumbersome and riddled with holes, problems, oversight and common sense.

    The libs are saying this is ok?….. no wonder we are in a mess…

    • Fraud isn’t OK.  It should be pursued.  But we already have laws in place to deal with the issue.  Besides, the Republicans put Robert Nutting into a position of leadership when he managed to get a million dollars that he wasn’t entitled to.  It’s like having a tramp getting mad at some else for being a floozy.

      • luvGSD

        I think that $1,333,511 figure for fraud includes Nutting’s $1+ million in fraud.

  • Anonymous

    Businesses will not hire more workers with lower unemployment taxes because it will cut into their profit margin the more workers the more tax that is paid the more tax paid is smaller bottom line for employers.

  • I want more say over who votes, I want more say over who gets unemployment, I want more say over Maine State Housing Authority, if I don’t get the cuts I want in DHHS I want more authority over the budget… Who is LePage’s hero anyway? Napoleon, Hitler, Caesar, Emperor Palpatine….? I know it can’t be anyone who believes in democracy.

    • Anonymous

      Stalin, LePig thinks he is Stalin.

  • Anonymous

    My guess is any money spent on the proposed fraud prevention program will later be cited by the GOP as another burden on the taxpayer and reason to shut down the whole program. Or they trot out some poster child for fraud as the impetus not to pay anyone unemployment.

  • Goodland

    Only out-of-touch liberals would think that 773 individuals with payment errors of $5,186,120 and/or $1,333,511 in fraud somehow validates their claim that there’s no problem and no room for improvement.

    • Anonymous

      The data isn’t being disputed.  The wisdom of spending $$ on diminishing returns, instead of job development is what’s in dispute.   The constant misdirection is a bit annoying too.

  • Anonymous

    You may be right, we may already have laws in place,…. but we still have fraud,.. and the people who commit fraud are not afraid of the penalties, because one, the penalties are not stiff enough,.. and two,.. the system does not scrutinize the applicants effectively, nor do they pursue the culprits.

    The assumption is everyone is honest, well, unfortunately everyone is not honest.

    I am also willing to bet there is more fraud than what department heads are willing to admit, because if they admitted it, they would be out of a job.

    As for Jobs,.. this is actually part of creating jobs, by limiting the amount of money a business owner has to pay out, you create opportunities to expand the business, ..

    I am a small business owner that will tell you, if the demands on my money were not so great,.. then I would be able to hire a couple people,.. as it it is now,.. I can not

    • Anonymous

      AS for jobs you say  ??  No way all they will do  is keep the money  . Why will they hire people if the people now are doing the work ?

  • Anonymous

    It is far easier to criticize than it is to do something. That being said however, the governor and advisers could write this bill in about 4 hours, and the legislature could debate and revise it in about four hours, making one day total investment in passing this reform. BUT NOOO, the media will drag it though the mud for days or weeks, 94 people will comment on it, meanwhile 773 people are out of work collecting illegal benefits for 26 weeks. What is a bigger waste of resources? Spending 8 (maybe even 40) hours passing the stupid bill that wont hurt anything or complaining about it and wasting THOUSANDS of man hours? Imbeciles.

    • Anonymous

      lepage cant write, but if he could then we wouldnt need his staff, or legislature, 0r aides or anyone for that matter in augusta, but the gov and a box of crayons! that would save millions overnite, so we could send him to school to be reducated and learn to write and he can do all of it by himself and save millions or billions! Brilliant Boo_Ga! Oh wait he is closing the schools,thatta work, that  my bad.

  • Anonymous

    Ok lets just spend 5,000 to 100,000 to save $50 dollars  makes perfect sense to me.  Rather than have an x-employer support the employee they no longer can employe we can sign the x-employee up for welfare bennifits….that will work.

  • Anonymous

    Would this law actually help decrease an already very low fraud rate?  I doubt it.  The Rs must have something else afoot (or ALEC/Kochs must have some national agenda going).

  • beithe

    What is it with LePage? He is obsessed with theft. If you are unemployed, homeless, down on your luck, or are not bringing home a hefty paycheck well hey! you must be stealing from someone. There was a point in his life when he was probably all of the above……… hmmm. It is said that we tend to dislike in others what is present in ourselves.

    • Anonymous

      Its Calvinism.  The poor are poor because God doesn’t like them.  God doesn’t like them because they are morally inferior.  If they are morally inferior they are thieves.

  • Bowdoin

    So the idiots in Augusta don’t think that $1.3 million is nothing to worry about. That figures, it’s not their money

  • Anonymous

    How about being a fraudulent governor?

  • Anonymous

    If we recall Paul and his Daughter will they be able to collect U.I. benefits?

    • Anonymous

      Why?
      They would simply work elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Does LePage think everyone is Maine is corrupt? Just Because he is doesn’t mean everyone else is.  

  • Anonymous

    sounds like the real fraud is in the office when they rate the unemployment benni.
    I know people who have been drawing for over a year.
    I also know others who have never drawn a day in their lives.
    I think the real fraud is in the office!!

    Why dont you take a look at that.

  • Anonymous

    im lepage get in my belly! Thats the Belly of The Beast!

  • Guest

    I love this perception that if businesses had to pay less tax they’d hire more employees.  It’s crap.  They take the money, give raises to themselves and cut benefits to the peons that work the bottom tier positions.

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