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  • Anonymous

    Wasnt there a case back about 15 or so years ago in Dixmont Where a local dairy farmer  was selling raw milk at a store and some people died ?

    • Guest

      Really? Being frugal, is where the problem starts…Everyone breaks the rules…It’s ok in Maine…Look at all th idiots driving, who don’t follow rules, they kill people everyday, something already in the water…

      • Lori Hall

        Flouride

      • Anonymous

        Yes, and I believe most of them do not drink much milk.

    • Anonymous

      No, I believe you are thinking of the uncountable cases of FDA inspected and approved beef that has killed people.

      • pbmann

        The FDA inspects less than 1% of the meat that goes to the consumer.  There needs to be more inspection, meaning more inspectors, but thanks to Republicans cutting the number of inspectors we get meat and other foods that are potentially unsafe.  Companies can not be counted on to provide safe foods without the fear of inspections.

    • Anonymous

      I grew up in Dixmont. I never heard of anyone dieing in Dixmont from drinking Raw milk.

      • pbmann

        People can die from raw milk, that is why pasteurization was invented, so that people could safely drink milk.

        • According to US CDC and NTSB data, you are more likely to die in a traffic accident on your way to pick up your raw milk than you are to be sickened by drinking it.

          So let’s ban cars, instead!

          People can die from lightening strikes, as well. Let’s ban going outside if there are any clouds in the sky!

          I don’t understand how people cannot seem to wrap their heads around some fairly trivial risk assessment. You are much more likely to die in childbirth than to be sickened from raw milk. Let’s ban children! And if a C-section is safer than natural childbirth, let’s make it mandatory!

          • pbmann

            What a straw argument!

            Let’s bring in totally unrelated activities and then compare and contrast them.

          • “Straw argument?” How about “rational look at comparative risks” instead?

            Or do you really believe that the nanny state should protect you from everything and provide you with a zero-risk environment?

            If you are not willing to give up the significant risk of injury or death from being in a traffic accident, why are you so willing to impose restrictions on others for willingly choosing a much smaller risk for what they perceive to be an important health benefit?

        • Anonymous

          I have heard of people dying from a lot of different things like meas,t salads, baby food and many other products, but I never heard of anyone dying from Raw milk. 

    • Collateral damage!

    • Google doesn’t know a thing about any raw milk deaths in Dixmont. The CDC reports no raw milk deaths in at least ten years.

      However, pasteurized milk killed eighteen and sickened between 150,000 and 200,000 in 1987, with over 16,000 culture-matched cases, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association (December 11, 1987). (The Untold Story of Milk, by Ron Schmid, p 225.)

  • Anonymous

    I grew up on raw milk, butter and cottage cheese made from raw milk.  The milk for all of that came from my Dads Uncle and the butter and cheese were made by my Grandmother.  I’m still alive!  Leave the man alone.

    • Anonymous

      My thoughts exactly!

    • I have mixed views on this subject,

         I used to sell Blueberrys from a road stand, picked from the pole line behind the house when I was a kid in the 60’s.

      I would think it absurd the Government requirement for licensing for such excepting that I often wonder now about the pesticides that where used on the pole line and the effects that may have had on people.

       

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think those pesticides are any worse than the ones used commercialy today, making blueberries the most pesticide ladden fruit available, and with FDA approval

        • Anonymous

          huh…i could have sworn apples were the most pesticide laden fruit available

    • Anonymous

      Used to drink a gallon of milk a day when working on a dairy farm. We dipped it directly with a stainless steel container from the holding tank which was kept at 34 degrees.  Never broke a bone after some pretty hard hits and accidents. Have a healthy immune system to boot. Still going strong at 55 so I don’t think the “unprocessed raw milk” hurt me any….Our bodies need some bacteria to survive, move on to something else rather than “Sprocket’s” milk for goodness sake.

      • Anonymous

        Which presidential candidate will protect your individual rights? Romney? Obama? I think not.. The answer is Ron Paul if you dare to leave the herd and think for yourself.

        • Anonymous

          Well Ron Paul will protect your individual rights as long as you are not a woman or a minority.

          • Anonymous

            or a fool like himself! he wants to legalize dope for all, among a slew of other ignorant proposals. too many to mention. he should be ashamed to call himself a republican. he may have just a couple good thoughts. not many.

          • Anonymous

            When you talk of legalizing dope, you talking just marijuana or all drugs? There is no reason MJ should not be legal; it is less dangerous than alcohol. Legalize it, tax it, and create a new source of revenue.

            If people want to drink raw milk, let them drink raw milk, at their own risk. Same for any other food. Either cook it completely to kill the bugs or take the risk.

            A few bacteria are actually good for you. Your immune system needs the exercise.

          • pbmann

            Paul thinks all drugs should be legal

          • Guest

            he should be ashamed to call himself a republican. he may have just a couple good thoughts. not many.
            *****************************************************
            he’s an ‘old school’ republican—BEFORE they were infiltrated and taken over by Jerry Falwell’s ‘moral majority’.

          • Anonymous

            I call BS.  Paul wants to get the federal government back to its constitutional roots.  There won’t *be* any federal government to protect anybody’s individual rights when the US government becomes completely insolvent at the hands of politicians that cannot match spending to revenues, never mind politicians that pass crazy laws like The Patriot Act or the current Defense Authorization Act, the latter that takes away the rights of everybody, black, white, male, female, whatever, to not be detained without arrest, and so on. 

            Also MidnightAJ, with all due respect, simply shouting racist, as you just did with regards to Ron Paul, reminds me of this tired debate tactic: 

            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JaRkP2xxKQw/ThXU8qs3umI/AAAAAAAAO1o/yIpoVHB8fhc/s400/shout_racist.jpg

          • Anonymous

            I will not go into a long, drawn out argument with you over Ron Paul in a comments section below an article about raw milk. I, like many young americans, was hoping Ron Paul would be the answer. After doing some of my own research, I believe he is not. I am actually quite disgusted with his actions and votes and will not be voting for Mr. Paul. His record speaks for itself, I have the freedom to call racism if I choose to. Call me misinformed, but I will not be voting for Mr. Paul and anything you write or post will not change that today or any day. Look, your vote just cancelled out mine. What a great democratic system we have! Free to agree to disagree.

          • Anonymous

            I hear you on some of the old Ron Paul stuff regarding some of his old votes.

            But honestly, this country is very broke $$ and broken in many other ways too.  We (all of us – young, old, urban, country,, white, African, Latino, men, women) are losing so many rights, especially in the past decade to fears of terrorism… inner city neighborhoods and kids that I work with, (I work outside Boston with mainly at-risk kids of color from Boston’s poor neighborhoods) are losing so much to two decades of wars for oil, all to keep the 1% wealthy, while poor kids are shuffled off to war….. now we don’t even have the right to drink the raw milk we want…  Maybe Ron Paul isn’t the liberty-minded person to do this….maybe it takes somebody younger, without all the baggage to better match voters such as yourself…maybe it won’t be a white male, which is now the kiss of death if you dare speak anything unorthodox politically, but does anybody here think that any of the mainstream politicians, on either side of the isle, are going to give us anything but more food freedoms taken, more wars “to create democracy” (really wars for oil to enrich the rich), more Federal Reserve secret loans to big banks, both here and now overseas……?  Really, will any of the major candidates change any of that, and if not, what about womens rights?, minority rights, environmental protection, when the entire country is broke….when the government completely caves to The Federal Reserve and its ongoing bailout of the rich, and the endless wars?  When we’re in complete paralysis, what about the rights of the unfortunate and minority? 

            They’ll be gone, along with everybody elses taken by anti-food freedom laws (giving all our food money to the likes of Monsanto, ADM, and Cargill), by the Patriot Act law, and by the latest Defense Authorization Act, just to name two of the dozens of laws passed by both parties, Bush II and Obama, over the past 15 years or so.

            By all means, don’t vote for somebody like Paul.  But if I were you, being young as you say, I’d look long and hard for some other candidate that dares speak out….really speak out…on the “crazy” stuff, like machine-gun carrying feds enforcing pasteurization laws, or auditing the Federal Reserve, and stopping the endless Mideast oil wars. 

            Speaking as somebody who isn’t so young anymore (49), things have gotten way bad, and look to get a whole lot worse.  This milk thing is the tip of the iceberg and I really feel for my nieces and nephews, and young people such as yourself.  I really don’t see much of a solution, Ron Paul or not.

            I hope I’m wrong, for your sake.

          • Guest

            beltrams, I’d give you a billion ‘likes’ if I could…you hit the nail on the head!

          • Anonymous

            Ok.. Since you requested .. I will call you misinformed. 

          • exactly what the lame stream media wanted   from idiots

            RON PAUL IS NO MORE A RACIST then  I am a    garage cause i  had a car parked beside me

          • Anonymous

            Again – free to disagree, you don’t have to like my opinion or my choice. The beauty of living in America! However, your disrespect and name calling lends more negativity to your comment and those you choose to support. I do not choose to support Ron Paul period. Is he racist? Maybe. That is not the only reason I have decided Mr. Paul is not the candidate I choose to back at this time.

          • Guest

            Well Ron Paul will protect your individual rights as long as you are not a woman or a minority.  

                **************************************************************
            why would you say that?

          • Anonymous

            Check out his voting record, newsletter, etc. and then you will see why I made that statement.

          • pbmann

            But, but…. he says he did not know what was in his own newsletter regarding all the racist and sexist things in there.

        • Anonymous
        • Anonymous

          Ron Paul doesn’t drink milk.

      • Anonymous

        How true. Society as a rule has become so germophobic our immune systems don’t work as well as they should leading to more sickness.

        • pbmann

          Our immune system works quite well, thank you very much.  So well, in fact, it is the cause of most of our allergies, asthmas and multiple auto-immune diseases. 

          Our immune system is so strong it attacks healthy cells because there are not enough germs and pathogens for it to fight.

    • Anonymous

      same here 

    • Anonymous

      LarrySG, I am sure we are not related, but I could have written the same comment you did.  I grew up on my Dad’s uncle’s farm, drinking raw milk, and eating butter made from it, but my butter was made by my mother, not my grandmother!  I, too, am still alive at 64, and sure wish I could be living on a farm now, enjoying fully natural foods, and not ones that I recently found out are filled with ground pulp wood, including ice cream!!!

    • Anonymous

      I grew up on the same thing!—None of us on my grand parents farm were ever sick—That only started after the grains and the animals were injected with whatever the hell they get injected with!—And I am now in my 70ties.

  • kcjonez

    The FDA & DOA should spend more time and resources pursuing problems that affect large segments of our population and less time pursuing farmer Brown and the like.

    • Anonymous

      That’s the point.  Then the government has total and complete control.  A government big enough to give you anything you want can take it all away any time they want.  It’s called communism.  That’s where the US is headed.  Next thing you know,  we be forced to grow gardens under cover like the marijuana growers do now.  It’s insane!

      • I think you’ve got your “isms” mixed up.

        Communism is a totalitarian form of government in which the state owns and controls all capital resources.

        Fascism is a totalitarian form of government that works hand-in-hand with private interests that control all capital resources.

        We were allies with the Communists against the Fascists in WWII. But we’ve been allies with the Fascists against the Communists ever since, until Fascism has pervaded all our institutions.

        • pbmann

          Wow someone who actually knows what communism and fascism is posting on the BDN. 

          • I’m not necessarily a communist sympathizer. I just get so damn tired of seeing people label anything they disagree with as “communist.”

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again with the same comments for and against the issue of selling raw milk.  I’m weary of recycled stories.  Maybe someone should go back and just copy all the comments from the last time this story ran.

    • Anonymous

      They could spice it up a little by getting some people to illegally camp in his pasture. They could drag it out 6 …..maybe 8 weeks.

      • Anonymous

        occupy brown

        • Anonymous

          LMAO….

      • Anonymous

        That was funny Cheesecake!  Even those who support the “occupation” have to laugh at this.  Thanks for the smile.  

  • Anonymous

    As long as it’s labeled and the victims cant sue or taxpayers have to pay for their hospital bills when they get EColi poisoning.   Put a label on the milk:  Drinking this milk may cause: tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever;  Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli.

    Sure, people with normal immune systems can handle some bacteria, but, you give it too the real young or the elderly, you’re playing russian roulette.  Are these “vitamins” and “minerals” really *that* healthy versus what the consequences are for drinking unpasteriized milk?

    • John Eastman

      Quit complaining!! No label! If you cant drink or eat something, da, don’t buy it. Your statements have no base. Just a liberal excuse! 

      • Anonymous

        Actually it is your point that has no defensible base.

    • Anonymous

      According to my Encyclopedia Brittanica from the 1950’s, the primary diseases contracted from raw milk were tuberculosis and undulant  fever.  If the cow’s handlers don’t have TB, that’s not a problem; and undulant fever is no longer common. The other health issues mentioned can be prevented by cleanliness and safe handling. 

      My kids and I consumed raw milk in Yarmouth, ME from about 1980 to 1990–never any problems.  The farmer told me then that state law (back then) required me to bring MY OWN clean bottles, which he would fill.

      But I guess government wants to amass more and more power, to protect us from anything, including ourselves.

      • Anonymous

        We, and our 3 sons drank raw milk from a Piscataquis dairy during the 80’s. All played HS football for 4 years, grew to more than 6 ft and are very healthy today. Same dairy rule-bring your own clean container. About $1.00 per gal. No middle man (gov. agent)

        • pbmann

          I grew up drinking pasteurized milk only.  I played soccer and basketball, football was not popular in England when I was growing up an Air Force brat, grew to 6’2″ and am very healthy today. 

          What is your point, that you were lucky enough to drink raw milk that did not make you sick?  Raw milk can be dangerous to drink and should be labeled as such so that consumers know the dangers of drinking it.

          • “Raw milk can be dangerous to drink and should be labeled as such…”

            And you have data to back that up? Because US Center for Disease Control data does not back up that assertion.

            In fact, if you eliminate Mexican “bathtub cheese” and limit it to positive culture matches in both cases, the illness rate from raw and pasteurized milk is actually quite similar — about 42 cases per year, or 4.6 cases per million drinkers of either product.

            When compared with some 48,000,000 annual food-borne illnesses reported to the US CDC each year, raw milk illness is statistically insignificant.

            Living is dangerous. Anyone who says this or that “can be dangerous” without citing actual figures is simply fear-mongering. And when actual figures are cited, raw milk turns up somewhere far below tripping and falling over your own feet. Hey, let’s put mandatory safety warnings on all feet!

          • Anonymous

            Point is I don’t need a gov. nanny if I know who my dairyman is. By the way;did 20 years in the AF, and my children were never “brats” just independent Americans.

    • I think you should investigate the research of Weston A. Price. He visited isolated indigenous villages throughout the world, many of them having a diet heavily dependent on raw milk. He recorded no tuberculosis. But when these villages got their first road, tuberculosis shot way up.

      You also have the “immune system” argument completely backwards. The enzymes and beneficial bacteria in raw milk strengthen immune systems! It’s not a case of healthy people surviving raw milk, it’s the case that raw milk creates healthy people!

      Before the health regulators became co-opted by the milk industry, doctors used to prescribe raw milk to infants and the elderly. Now, @colgatesun:disqus  would have us cowering in fear of what we were told was medicine just a short time ago.

      On the matter of hospital bills: where can I get a rebate for not being sick all the years I’ve been drinking raw milk? I’m tired of paying for all the illness and disease that pasteurized milk causes! @colgatesun does not understand the concept of “pooled risk.”

  • Anonymous

    Cant it be assumed people have the ability to make educated decisions on what is served on their dinner tables? people are dumb…there are bigger fish to fry out there-let the little guy alone. Maybe he can put up a sign-drink at your own risk-we are still alive…just to cover his butt.

    • Anonymous

      He shouldn’t have to put up a sign.  BTW, I’m not dumb and I resent you collectively calling people dumb.  Where do you get off?

      • kkmousse

        I see no reason for a sign.  If a person seeks out raw milk to buy.  They already know the risk (if any). The only reason for the sign and the license is so that it is easier to come after you if they want.

  • Matthew Cote

    Pasteurization is an outdated process. It was first made that dairy’s had to pasteurize the milk because the factories where filthy and virus’s could get in the milk. Now dairy processing plants  have all of their equipment made from stainless steel which is clean and their are laws on how clean the plants have to be. It is just because it has been around so long that we are made to believe that we cant drink milk any other way.

  • Anonymous

    This will seem like a really good idea and be all the rage in certain old time, anti regulation, and anti government circles but when really unfortunate results, directly attributable to incompetents marketing untested raw milk start to roll in; all these defenders of Farmer Brown the heroic raw milk “embattled farmer” will vanish like cockroaches and the heroic embattled farmer, farmers will be swinging in the breeze and deservedly so.  They will be right where they belong.

  • Anonymous

    The govt, once again, is there to tell us
    they know what is best for us so we will
    do whatever they say to do. I guess people
    can’t make rational decisions on their own
    as to what they want to consume. This isn’t
    the only incident of them trying to stop a private
    citizen from doing something on such a small
    scale. Maybe we should scream about the USDA
    being in the mortgage business backing loans
    for housing.

  • Anonymous

    Buy bottles,sell the empty bottles which are taxable, get a free milk fill up …problem solved.

    • Anonymous

      excellent example of the market at work.  You cannot suppress human behavior by employing regulation, you only slow it temporarily like a river until it forms a new rout around the obstruction.  Let people make their own decisions.

  • Anonymous

     cows milk made for a calf not humans. When was the last time you saw a person in the pasture latched onto a cows teeeeet.

    • Anonymous

      Last Thursday.

      • Anonymous

        that the kind of answer I like. once met a girl who was latched onto……..

    • Anonymous

      Wow…I’d hate to hear what your thoughts are on goats.

      • Sheep anyone?

      • Anonymous

        why? Ever listen to a human bio chemist? he understands why and how foods are absorbed into the body. Cows ,goats, sheeps, camels, milk does not work well for the human body. And I love cheese like anyone else… plus you body doesn’t need it. calcium?.. have some nuts or broccoli 

    • Guest

      You don’t travel rural Maine much do you? Come check out friday nite pasture parties. Raw milk goes great with Allens coffee brandy!!!

      • Anonymous

        we are in rural maine. don’t care much for sweet swill cafelatteimmitationchocolatemilk. Vodka  or any clear grain moonshine will do. my brother in law goes thru a gallon of allens and milk a week the sugar & milk  carbs got him up to 365 lbs from 200 

        He can’t figure why he’s overweight. if you don’t burn what you consume it goes to fat.
        I’m not against raw milk. or any milk,, its was not designed/ made for humans.. Am as guilty as the next for using it in cooking, ice cream, cheese

  • This is ridiculous.  Our society is so over-regulated that it is impossible for any community to be self-sustaining, even if desired.

  • Anonymous

    One more  reason to go VEGAN.

    • Anonymous

      No thanks.God gave us domain over animals as food and clothing.I’ll go that route as Jesus made one fish into many, not tomatoes.

      • Anonymous

        Plus animals are yummy!

    • Guest

      I heard that VEGAN is just an old Indian word for poor hunter.

  • Anonymous

    The raw milk issue is cast as a food safety issue.  Raw
    milk is no more unsafe than any other food.   The fact is, raw milk
    is a super-food, and therefore is in the cross hairs of the FDA, a goon squad
    for the large pharmaceutical and agribusiness corporations.  Anyone heard
    of all the cancer cures that the FDA has shut down?  This agency is in a
    full bore assault on the health of the American people, and raw milk is one
    food that fits the bill.  A few cows can anchor a small farm economically. 
    Large agribusiness knows that consumers are becoming aware that their children
    can actually grow up healthy eating foods from these small farms, especially
    raw milk.  They are frantic to stop the trend, and their business
    associates at the FDA are more than happy to comply, along with all their state
    associates, whos very jobs are subject to the co-operative funds that the FDA
    funnels to the State.  I just laugh at all the people who comment about
    how unsafe raw milk is, most of them have never drank it, they’re just
    parroting the lies of the press.
    Walter Whitcomb is a like the guy who bows down and licks the boots of his
    oppressor.  He is selling out small farmers in this state, all for the
    funds that the FDA provides.  No honor.

    • Several years ago, Monsato Corp. sued Oakhurst Dairy in Portland over Oakhurst’s ads that they would not use any dairy produced by cows/herds that used artificial hormones.

      Monsanto claimed that Oakhurst was hurting their business by “implying” that the no hormones policy meant safer/better milk.

      If you really want to know who is behind the persecution of Brown and his single milk cow, check the money and influence trail.

    • Anonymous

      agreed…as a former farmer, Mr. Whitcomb should be ashamed of his actions  

  • Laura Chase

    We are fortunate in Maine that the sale of raw milk is legal. A yearly inspection of a vehicle is required before it can be on the road. It seems reasonable to me that a farm producing milk should have an inspection, too.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll inspect that cow for ya,…all the way from Florida….cow picture…yup, she’s good to go.  I grow scads of citrus that we eat and 3 gardens a year.  I , nor anyone on Earth needs a government RAT pawing through our vegetables or farm animals.  Unless we’re abusing our plants or animals, of course.

    • Guest

      You mean like the state certified inspector who “inspected” my wife’s mini-van by just coming out of the shop, scraping off the old sticker, putting a new one on, and saying that will be $12.50?  I do my own inspection before I have my vehicle inspected so I know what the verdict will be.  But, that would be using my own common sense, and we can’t have any of that, can we?

      • Come on !! throw the poor guy at the garage a bone, these inspections are truely a just general overview. they have rules for the Inspections but mechanics are allowed some leway. A thorough no holes barred inspection would take at least an hr.

        12.50?

        Can you operate a garage on 12.50 an hr?

        • Guest

          Nobody forces a garage to become a state certified inspection station, but if they choose to become one, then they are required to inspect certain things on a vehicle.  When I said that this guy came out and scraped the old sticker off and put a new one on, that’s ALL he did.  I know this not because my wife told me, but because I was the one who brought it over to be “inspected”.  They don’t need to strip a vehicle down to nothing in order to determine whether or not it meets some basic, but important, safety criteria such as tire wear and tie rod ends.  If a garage owner feel he’s going to lose money doing inspections, then DON’T do them, but if he’s going to do them, then do them right.

          • Anonymous

            It’s interesting that the topic of vehicle inspections has become part of this bovine discussion.  Especially when you consider that for most garages the State Inspection has become a Cash COW.  They’ll ALWAYS fine something “wrong”.  

          • Anonymous

            Speaking of cash cows and taking advantage, who does the snow plowing on Heagan Mt. Road?  The road isn’t public.  Let’s hope it isn’t the town or county.

          • Anonymous

            IIRC ownership of the road reverted to the landowners on either side of the road when the road was officially closed.  It’s now maintained by the people living on it.

  • Anonymous

    The raw milk issue is cast as a food safety issue.  Raw
    milk is no more unsafe than any other food.   The fact is, raw milk
    is a super-food, and therefore is in the cross hairs of the FDA, a goon squad
    for the large pharmaceutical and agribusiness corporations.  Anyone heard
    of all the cancer cures that the FDA has shut down?  This agency is in a
    full bore assault on the health of the American people, and raw milk is one
    food that fits the bill.  A few cows can anchor a small farm economically. 
    Large agribusiness knows that consumers are becoming aware that their children
    can actually grow up healthy eating foods from these small farms, especially
    raw milk.  They are frantic to stop the trend, and their business
    associates at the FDA are more than happy to comply, along with all their state
    associates, whos very jobs are subject to the co-operative funds that the FDA
    funnels to the State.  I just laugh at all the people who comment about
    how unsafe raw milk is, most of them have never drank it, they’re just
    parroting the lies of the press.
    Walter Whitcomb is a like the guy who bows down and licks the boots of his
    oppressor.  He is selling out small farmers in this state, all for the
    funds that the FDA provides.  No honor.

  • It all comes down to one cow in the middle of Maine. Perhaps Mr. Lepage will stand up for a business in Maine.  Or not. Maybe the cow is in a union or had its picture painted at one time. The cow does not appear to be on welfare or Mainecare, however, cows are clever and can be deceiving. Just look into a cows eyes and you may see the mystery of timelessness. 

    • Anonymous

      I had a cow take my anthropology exam at UMO, and it was the first B+ I ever got in that class.   

    • Anonymous

      That is hilarious and  clever! :) Made me laugh, thanks!

    • Look into the governors eyes and you will get the same effect,

      Its no mystery however, its the lack of grey matter behind the optic recievers!

  • Anonymous

    How about the gov’t finding out where the food poisoning is coming from in our meat and vegetable production & distribution. I haven’t heard of any problem recently with raw milk. Leave Dan Brown alone!!!
    I have a compromised immune system and I’d drink his milk.
    I think the problem with all the kids being allergic to things now is due to everything being sanitized, pasteurized, irradiated, and many chemicals and colorings added to ‘enhance’ the shelf life and flavor of the products. 
    Did anyone else ever drink water from a garden hose when you were a kid?  Heard a woman screaming at her kids last summer when they did that at a campsite. I wonder if they survived.

    • Did anyone else ever drink water from a garden hose when you were a kid? 

         Heck, I used to play with Mercury as a kid, collected from broken thermometers, I survived but for some reason my Kids IQ’s are way above mine.

      LOL

      • Anonymous

        I remember playing with balls of mercury when I was a kid too, yup and the hose thing.  Government has gotten too big and overstepped their boundaries.

        • Guest

          Nothing to do with chemicals but one of my favorite memories is riding/laying up on the shelf of the rear window that old cars used to have. No air bags or belts. Now that was really living on the edge!

      • Guest

        I did the mercury thing as well, watched it bounce around on the floor and break apart and go back together. Also, probably ate my share of lead paint…still kicking and going strong at 64…

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely correct!

  • mainelady207

    Good Grief! Don’t we have better things to be in Court about?? this is really ridiculous if you ask me.. Personally I am looking into more grass fed and natural foods then ever.. I am finding that some of the stuff in our meats and products are just a little too scary for me to even think of eating again.. Leave the guy alone and his family and cute cow alone! Move on to something more important..

  • Anonymous

    I drank raw milk all my life up until I hit college.  It is much better for you to drink.  It has natural enzymes that enhance digestion and absorption of the minerals and…… Hey, …It’s the only milk you should drink.   And grass feed beef….tasty!  A little tougher,  but way better tasting  with a better balance omega3 /omega 6 fatty acid ratio.  Heart food!

  • Anonymous

    AND sometimes when the stinking nit pickers working for our government neglect to turn a blind eye toward an obvious infringement on the life, liberty and happiness of a family……That guy needs to be fired.

  • Anonymous

    How now, Brown cow. Goats milk?

  • Anonymous

    Hay, its not like he sold guns to mexico drug dealers and watched the leave the country, its only raw milk after all. Once again the goverment pushing the little guy around!

  • Anonymous

    Stick to your guns Farmer Brown. The Maine Dept. of Ag. is a municipal corporation, not put of the true republican form of government (Art. 4 Sec.5 U.S. Constitution).

     This is just another example of big business creating regulation.  What would happen to Hood, Dole,  Gerelick Farms, Coke, Cumberland Farms (just to name a few).  If all the dairy farms in the country sold FRESH MILK (a.k.a raw milk) to all the people in the community?  There would be a few 30-40 head family dairy farms in every community like there was before the heavy milk regulations.  Those small farm could make a good living like they should. Big agribusiness dose not want the competition of small family farms in every neighborhood.

    The medical profession is totally against raw milk, bottom line pasteurization of dairy products is very bad for mammals.  Pasteurization of milk kills good enzymes and creates an unknown (to the human body) sugar that scars arteries, yes pasteurized milk causes heart disease. The medical profession want you sick and diseased.  So therefore raw milk is the an enemy to the medical profession and  big Pharma.

    Louis Pasteur, who invented the pasteurization processed, thought he was on the right track of killing disease, but realized he was wrong.

    The assertive, self-promoting Pasteur convinced the powers of French
    medicine that his theory was correct and that the pleomorphic theory of
    the quiet, modest Béchamp was wrong. But on his death-bed Pasteur
    recanted and said that “Bernard (Béchamp) was right… The microbe is
    nothing… The terrain is everything.” But his theory had taken such hold
    that no one took note.

    more on Pasteur   http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=7584

    Pasteurized dairy, is another part of the Eugenics diet the globalist feed us

    Raw milk is is nourishing and healthy, therefore it will always be attacked, by those who wish pain, suffering, illness, and ect. an the people.

  • Anonymous

    Your tax dollars at work.

  • poormaniac

    Udderly ridiculous !

  • Anonymous

    Babies of the animal kingdom drink milk, nothing that is an adult has milk for a diet except for humans. Once we are old enough to get off moms milk we should stop there. Drink water.

  • Anonymous

    Get Rid of the friggin government. They are nothing but  a bunch of crooks and liars.  Back to Nature, let the cows mooooove along.

    • Yeahhh –Ahhh!

      Anarchy!

      You got  to love it!

  • Anonymous

    Hey folks, this isn’t about raw milk. This is about the rights of the individual.  This is about someone going to a farmer’s farm and asking to buy something. In this case it is raw milk but it could just as easily be eggs or vegetables. The state has no business interfering in this private transaction.
    If Farmer Brown chooses to sell Sprocket’s milk at a public venue, then the State has standing to require certain hoops be jumped through.

  • Anonymous

    Guy goes into bar and orders two beers.  You want them at the same time says barkeeper.  Yup-ones for my little friend here.  He pulls 3” tall Earl out of his pocket and stands him on the bar.  Can he drink-yup he’ll need a straw please.  Can he run-yup Earl runs to the end of the bar and back..  Can he talk-yup-Earl tell the barkeep about the time we went to Africa and you called the witch doctor a wus  Bottoms up -this one’s for you farmer brown

  • Anonymous

    ‘Udders’? She only has one. Four teats though, but you can’t say that, right?

    • Anonymous

      How refreshing to see someone knows what an udder is and what teats are.

      • Anonymous

        Pulled em my whole life, Darlin

        ________________________________

  • John Eastman

    This is ridiculous!!!  I worked on a 125 head farm and never had an issue with raw milk. The farm has been around 60+ yrs. There milk is processed, but they drank it for ever right out of the tank. This is BIG Govt. with there hands in again. OCCUPY!!!!!!! Take back what is ours. This country. People wake up!! This Govt. of ours is going to ruin us all.

  • Anonymous

    If I were an independent dairy producer following the regulation$, would I be upset that another producer was not following the $ame?
    The creator of the milky way just wants us to get along.

  • John Eastman

    Ok. What about people selling eggs!! I would think salmonella is more common from eggs. No regulations on sellin them. This is BS. 

  • Anonymous

    Although in my adult life, I prefer to err on the side of caution and drink pasteurized milk, we lived next door to a small farm while I was growing up.  Many times, my mother sent my brother and me to bring home jugs of milk that weren’t pasteurized.  Nobody in our house ever got sick from it.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see anything wrong with selling fresh cows milk. I grew up on fresh milk and all my family did. We had a farm in Dixmont with a few cows. I learn to hand milk a cow. My mom made home made butter and buttermilk and  we never got sick. I’ve been trying to find a farm in Lincoln that will sell fresh cows milk. I would pay $4.00 for a gallon. I don’t drink milk only if I have to because to me it taste like watered down. Most of the cream has been removed and that is what makes good tasteing milk.. Leave the Blue Hill Farmer alone. You have my vote sir. God Bless you.

    • Anonymous

      I grew up on raw milk and did very well. Now near 65 and can’t drink processed milk in any form without becoming explosive. Can’t even put a tablespoon full in a cup of coffee without the same results. BUT, in the process of doing refrigeration work on a dairy farm most favored by Martha Stewart on a crooked little back road in Maine, I was offered a free gallon jug of raw milk with the cream floating on the top. That was the first time in probably 20+ years i have snuggled up to several large soft molasses cookies or a big thick soft brownie and washed it down with a tall glass of cold milk and walked away with absolutely no back lash WHAT SO EVER!!
                         Thank you, Smith Farm (little plug there)

  • Anonymous

     This is what happens when we let profiteers (corporations), write the rule book.

    Also, those statistics are suspect.

     There’s no mention of illness from the pasteurized milk that is sucked out of filthy, medicated cows that only eat fermented corn stalks. 

  • Anonymous

    My husband and I go through 4 gallons of raw milk a week. We eat real butter, buy a beef cow from a farmer, and have no major health issues. My husband and I are in our 60’s and take no medication. Nothing for cholesterol, blood pressure – nothing. I believe it’s from drinking and eating food naturally without all the damn preservatives in it and all the good stuff taken out, then added. Wake up government bigwigs – we don’t need your interference all the time. I’m a grown up and can eat and drink my food any way I choose. Leave the little farmer alone!

    • Anonymous

      Precisely!

    • Anonymous

      Amen, sistah!

  • Anonymous

    Oh and I forgot to add. When my second oldest brother was born he couldn’t keep store baught milk or formula in his body. So my mom gave him raw fresh milk and I mean fresh , stright from the cow, nice and warm and that saved his life.

    • Anonymous

      what about fresh raw milk straight from her nipple?  surely that would have been better than cows milk for a baby.

      • Anonymous

        the milk from my moms nipple wouldn’t stay in his belly either  Stright from the cow.

  • Anonymous

    Everything’s fine until someone gets hurt.  If I were him, I’d get my customers to sign waivers protecting him if they should get sick.  Otherwise, he could wind up losing his farm!

  • Anonymous

    Ok Class,  Today our lesson is the classic example of our goverment being too damn big.  We do not need to license people to sell or distribute food.  But food is only a small part of the issue, food sales and distribution like so many other professions in our state do not need a bloated goverment state agency created soley to license and oversee every aspect of  a mulittude of small business or potential small businesses all across this huge state.   Ask any small business owner in Maine how well our current system of  mutlipile agencies and regulatory oversight is working for them.  But first grab a cup of coffee and sit down you’ll be here awhile.  The old montra of” Something is better than nothing”  when it come to business regulation is starting to wear it’s truth very thin.  We need to enact laws (most of which are already on the books) if necessary to hold people responsible for their actions in the course of doing business in our state.  Then we should melt down all of our various state agencies into one smaller more efficient group that works with the court system to prosecute violators based on consumer complaints.  Make the information available to how to operate a business in Maine and hold any law breakers accountable in the court system.  Ignorance of the law is never an excuse is stll very true. 

  • Anonymous

    One cow and the Maine Dept of Ag gets riled up. And we have budget problems in Augusta? Commissioner Whitcomb sounds like another one of the the governor’s evil henchmen. (Even though I know he isn’t, he is after all, a good ole Waldo County guy).

  • Anonymous

    Well all you “get government out of farming”wags; tell me, are you also opposed to the State of Maine setting and enforcing a “minimum” price for the sale of milk?  It is big government interference with business at its most obvious and keeps milk prices much higher than the market price would be. The lobbyists and state justify it as necessary to help “the family farmer” stay in business.

    Be consistent now.

  • Anonymous

    Dairy operation?  I’d hardly call one cow an operation.  The government has gone way over it’s boundaries in ordering us to buy only their inspected food.  What’s next, you can’t have a vegetable garden?  Geeez.

    • Guest

      The time to be vigilant is now because it’s coming.

    • Guest

      How many times have we heard on the news about meat,eggs etc that were inspected by the government sickening and in some cases killing people? I would trust farmer Brown and his one cow milk operation just as much as anything approved by the government.

    • Anonymous

      For the producers own use, if Farmer Brown wants to guzzle this stuff till it runs out his ears, have at it.  But when he propose to sell it to the public, whole new ballgame, always was and always will be, world without end amen.  To bemoan  that fact is hypocrisy and disingenuous fantasy, pure and simple.

      • Guest

        Always been an issue huh?
        You ever buy fruit from the side of the road, or bread and veggies at a farmer’s market?
        No licensing to sell those produced foods?  
        Kitchens the bread was cooked in weren’t required to undergo FDA inspections?
        No State taxes collected?
        How about lemonade stands?
        I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

        • Anonymous

          Well if so I wouldn’t be braking a new trail on this string
          ttfn

  • Anonymous

    wher are the occupiers when you really need em? this is ridiculous. Paul, Sue, Olympia Back bumpem, and what’s her name should be on this like sticky rice on  an Asian kids face.

  • Anonymous

    If this issue with raw milk was truly a safety issue then the state would have to take Farmer Brown’s daughter into custody because he is endangering her life by letting her consume it. But it is not a safety issue. It is an economic issue with the big dairy business controlling the  milk sales. If Farmer Brown gave his  milk away for free, he would not need a license. It is only because he sells it that the state wants him licensed. And, as he pointed out, licensing fees for his meager milk sales wouldn’t make sense. The milk only becomes “unsafe” to the authorities when Brown puts a price on it.
    It makes me wonder how come I can sell eggs straight from my farm at a farmers market or at my home, but I couldn’t sell milk without a license. I can also sell vegetables and fruit. All these items have been in the news lately with food borne illness outbreaks. And all the contaminated foods have been traced to large agribusinesses….not to small farmers.

  • Anonymous

    Lactose intolerance!!

  • Anonymous

    I drink raw milk, but I will only do it from a licensed seller–I know all too well the problems that food poisoning can cause. And what are high levels of bacteria or TB in your milk but a poisoning of your food, that could have been prevented by careful licensing?

    Why is this even a controversy? Fine the heck out of anyone that may poison the public.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget, this isn’t the public at large.  This is an individual who is selling milk to someone who comes to him to buy the milk.

  • Mark Brown

    Another case of big governments telling us it needs to protect us from ourselves. BTW..WHAT IS WITH HAVING TO SIGN IN TO POST? WHY ISN’T AN EMAIL ADDRESS ENOUGH?

  • All this bru-ha-ha over one and a half gallons of milk a day?????? Would the western world’s economy collapse if it was just given away?

  • Guest

    So many rules, so much time, money  and effort expended. I believe in the KISS theory. Keep It Simple Stupid

  • Anonymous

    leave it alone, i my self came from a dairy farm that’s all we had in the fridge, plus fresh egg’s, beef that we prepared our self’s after raising it “on our own farm” pork that we would prepare every oct. chicken’s that we free ranged. and so on as a matter of fact this spring i’m starting another small farm and i can’t wait to have the good stuff again, SO TO GET TO THE POINT KEEP YOUR ANTI FARMING, PRO GOVERNMENT BS TO YOUR SELF’S AND OUT OF MY NEWSPAPER,
    P.S if i had the chance to buy fresh milk you can bet i WILL do it after all who’s the one that will get sick from it anyway, that’s a hole nother story, titled something like, GET OUT OF MY BUSINESS AND LET ME EAT AND DRINK WHAT I WANT,

  • Anonymous

    How will all those government regulators earn enough money to buy votes if some jerk just goes off on his own to sell something without permission? There is no more free America.

  • Anonymous

    How silly to talk about big government. The government just does what big business tells it to do. This is one of those cases where the country is watching, and if a fellow can sell a pound of butter without a license, the whole structure of society might crumble.

  • Annie Doran

    They’re going to try and persecute this guy for $8 a day for raw milk. First of all, what? Second of all, I am of the opinion it’s the only healthy way to drink cow’s milk. I drank it for the past three years with no problems at all. We kept the jars clean and never let the milk sit out. That’s all you have to do, really. 

  • Guest

    Raw milk and Allens coffee brandy….. Nothin fighna!

  • Briney

    Here’s a chance for  our – cut the red tape – governor, to prove he is truly against too many government  regulations. 

    The Maine Milk Commission already determines how much they should shake us for a quart of milk.  Failure to comply with their set prices based on a bunch of discombobulated regulations, it means you face the judge.  Thus, the opportunity for farmers and sellers to offer a great product at more acceptable prices is muzzled by state government.

    To put the squeeze on Farmer Brown and his family for enjoying the fruits of his and Sprocket’s labors,  is a bit out of step.  

    Were the Founding Fathers forced to drink pasteurized milk?  

    Obviously not.  Louis hadn’t even been born.

  • Anonymous

    I would rather drink raw milk from a local farmer than consume cantaloupes, lettuce, tomatoes, etc from the huge farms that the government believes to be so safe. Too many people are dying from illnesses associated with the big farms than with anything produced locally. Where were the government inspectors when even peanut butter was sickening people? My guess is they were trying to figure out ways to hurt the locally produced eggs, fruit, veggies, milk and meat and not bothering to see the filth at the big operations. More people have died eating so-called safe foods from the big operations than from small local farms. If the farmer his family consume their goods, then I feel safe.

  • How many people died this summer from tainted cantaloupe? Yet the government doesn’t required pasteurizing all melons, have a special melon barn or otherwise demand special cantaloupe testing and inspection.

  • Government is just getting too big. We should be protecting the little guy not some Multi-billion dollar business whose only goal is the bottom line, not about the human being and its health. Farmer Brown is one of the ones we should be helping.

  • Anonymous

    The truth of why the government and the dairy lobbyists want milk pasteurized and only pasteurized milk on the retail shelf for sale to the average consumer is because milk is the by-product, in other words the waste product… the dairy industry makes their real big money off of the butter fat they separate out of the milk to make everything else in an industrialized food industry. Bottom-line buying milk off the shelf is just white water with vitamins added back in … otherwise it is useless to consume and they know it. They also know if whole nutrient-filled raw milk, the natural way is was CREATED, was available, then their useless white (no-longer-milk) water would not be bought.

  • Anonymous

    YOU WONDER WHY OUR TAXES ARE SO HIGH. WE SPEND ALOT OF MONEY HARASSING LEGITIMATE HARD WORKING PEOPLE  LIKE THIS FARMER. HE HAS GOT ONE COW AND WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THOUSANDS TO COLLECT  $5OO IN TAXES AND LICENSE FEES. LEAVE THE GUY ALONE! I GREW UP ON STORE BOUGHT MILK AND DON’T THINK I HAVE EVER HAD FRESH MILK. DOES IT REALLY MATTER? LEAVE THIS GOOD MAN ALONE!

  • You da man, Dan!

    I’m sending money to the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund today.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Anonymous

    This outrages me. People can choose to smoke cigarettes, which is clearly unhealthy—so they put a warning on the label. And people do it anyway. People can also choose to eat expired food—knowing it could make them sick. Companies put a date on items to dodge a lawsuit. Meaning, people who eat unsafe foods are responsible for their own health ills. Yet in THIS case, even when it’s common knowledge buying animal products that have not been altered chemically is a risk, suddenly its a political issue. This shows just how twisted our government and economy is. Instead of valuing human freedoms, one being the ability to support small farmers and business owners, our government has decided to try and control our personal eating habits. People gripe about the rise of “socialism” in America…well, here it truly is.

  • You know it is getting bad when a local man selling local milk to local people catches crap from the state gov cause they do not like it.  The state of Maine has vastly larger issues to deal with.

  • Otis B. Driftwood

    The cow and the governor share something in common when each are chewing their cud.

    • Anonymous

      And they are both full of the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    And this is exactly why the business climate in this state is dreadful.
    people need permit after permit, license, approval, and need to jump through ridiculous lines of red tape to start a small business or sell anything.

    It’s like the police shutting down childrens lemonade stands.
    ridiculous and “preposterous” indeed.

  • Anonymous

    I sell eggs to neighbors — arrest me.

    • Anonymous

      Shall we share a cell?

  • Anonymous

    During the late 70’s I raised some beef, chickens, turkeys and 2 milking cows to give my family a more natural healthy diet. We drank the natural milk and rich cream, I made cheese and we hardly ever had a sniffle. How I miss that and the natural foods we had right in our own back yard. 
    It is so sad that there are so many organizations and institutions receiving big salaries now that just keep cycling around looking at things to complain about or become involved with that are not the larger issues we face as a community, state, country or world.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t trust Walt Whitcomb as far as I could throw one of his cows.     Prior to the Dept. of Agriculture Commissioner, he was a legislator,  a member of both the majority and minority leadership, and campaigned for LePage.

    He shouldn’t be speaking on the subject, period.   He is a dairy man who has a conflict of interest in this whole situation.    He can say what he wants, but he’ll always side with his wallet, and the governor.

  • futuremainer

    The Way Life Should Be…………………..WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT INTERFERING…..State and Federal Regulators……seriously….thats a joke in itself.  Have never tasted it but cant wait to try it. Go Dan and Sprocket.  

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the issue here is either pro or con raw milk.  I think the issue here is can he legally sell the milk.  It sounds like  (and  I am not from Maine so I am going solely from this article) LEGALLY he can’t SELL it unless it is to a friend or family member.  Just like restaurants can’t be in someone’s kitchen despite the fact that often we go to friend’s homes to eat.  This guy is OPPOSED to barring his cat from the kitchen – the kitchen where the milk and cheese and butter are processed.  He obviously doesn’t want to do this as a business or he would have more cows and a clean place to work.  Perhaps he can just stick to selling to friends and family members that don’t understand or care about toxoplasmosis.  

    • Anonymous

      That is kind of the point. He is selling to someone who comes to him asking to buy milk.

  • Anonymous

    if the gov’t feels they NEED to intrude, how about they say “it COULD cause sickness” and then shut the hell up about it. i dont need them to keep me safe, from myself. now that i think about it, i COULD fall down the stairs and get hurt, the gov’t should probably make all stairs illegal.

  • Anonymous

    Pasteurization might be necessary for factory-farmed cows that are raised in terribly inhumane and unhealthy conditions, and where the farmer does not drink the raw milk. But when a farmer milks his own cow, and feeds the raw milk to his family, he’s not going to create unhealthy conditions like factory farming does. I am very grateful that I can buy raw milk every Tuesday from a local woman with one lucky cow (who gets great care, organic food, and daily pasture!), then can make butter out of the cream on Wednesday, and feed my family healthy, local milk every day of the week. I am lucky that I live in Maine, where the farmers haven’t in the past had to hide what they are doing by selling their milk as ‘pet food’ or other foolishness. Stop the petty bureaucracy – the ag department should be using it’s resources to protect us from unknown toxins in our foods, not from a very small risk that we are willing to take!

    • Anonymous

      You’ve said it all very nicely.

  • Anonymous

    If raw milk is so bad like the feds say then waterboarding should be eliminated and prisoners should be given Hannaford burgers with a tall glass of raw milk. More people who work at the CDC have died from boredom than those who have died drinking raw milk. Mr. Walt pick on somone your own size.

  • Guest

    This farmer brown has bacteria infested milk and doesn’t want to follow the rules, I say if you want to drink his bacteria infested milk then go for it, but don’t whine to the State of Maine when you get sick.

    • According to US CDC and NTSB data, you are about 780 times more likely to be killed in a car accident on your way to pick up your raw milk than you are to be sickened from drinking it.

      Don’t whine to the State of Maine for things like auto insurance, road improvements, etc. by your logic.

      You are several hundred times more likely to be struck by lightening than to be sickened by raw milk. Don’t go running to the nanny government if you suffer a natural disaster.

      You’re probably more likely to die in war than to be sickened by raw milk. Don’t go whining to your government if you get invaded by another country.

      Risk exists. Most people — and governments are made up of people — are notoriously poor at assessing comparative risk. Governments are in place for mitigating risk. Get over it, and admit that the risk from raw milk is vanishingly slim, so there must be something else going on here.

  • Angela Gendron

    This is ridiculous. I can’t believe they are actually concerning themselves with this. Really?  Leave the man and his cow alone!!

  • Mariah Ackley

    if you want to crack down on him for selling his additional product then you better shut down ever roadside veg stand in the state and across the country. The state is just pissed they did not get their cut.

  • Downeasta

    More of Lepage’s “helping the small business owner”.

  • Criticalee

    Obviously, this man is trying to take over the dairy industry in our state.  (DUH)  Oh how stupid government can be.

  • Anonymous

    I drank raw milk once. Ever since that day, I can’t decide whether to vote republican or democrat.

  • Nathan Rausch

    I believe Mr. Brown has the right to sell the excess milk from his own cow to those willing to accept the responsibility of their purchase as I would.

  • Anonymous

    The small family operation, used to be categorized as a “gentleman’s farm” and it is a way of life in rural parts of the State of Maine as well as using the barter system. Perhaps he could offer the milk under a donation basis to a non-profit he sets up to re-establish the validity of such operations. My children grew up on raw milk and used to take the cream off the top of the jug for their cereal! If the cow is not being treated with meds, steroids, etc. what’s the harm. America is wasteful – dumping thousands of gallons of milk down the drain due to regulations which serve to bankrupt the local farmer, let alone the guy trying to provide for his family and share with his neighbors. If the cow is healthy, and the milk brought right into the house from the machine, how much more fresher can you get? If individuals want to pasteurize it themselves, they can do so simply at their home. I say, let him keep the $8 a day and feed the cow! Wish we had more people helping in a small way. If you feel the whole unpasteurized milk is a problem, then don’t avail yourself of it. For those of us who can’t afford $4 a gallon to feed our families, it’s a blessing!

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  • Anonymous

    “The CDC’s website states, ‘Getting sick from raw milk can mean many days of diarrhea, stomach cramping, and vomiting. Less commonly, it can mean kidney failure, paralysis, chronic disorders, and even death.’”  Gosh, it sounds almost as bad as the side effects for every drug advertised on television!

    • There’s that magic weasel-word, “can.”

      Raw milk “can contain pathogens.” So can pasteurized milk.

      CDC’s own data do not back up their assertions. Google for epidemiologist Dr. Ted Beal’s analysis of CDC data. There has not been a single death reported in over eleven years, out of an estimated nine million people who drink raw milk (based on CDC figures).

      You “can” be struck by a meteor, too.

  • Guest

    “According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 93 “outbreaks” tied to raw milk or raw milk products in the United States between 1998 and 2009, resulting in 195 hospitalizations and two deaths. Unpasteurized milk can contain bacteria such as E. coli and listeria, the parasite giardia, and can cause serious illnesses such as tuberculosis.”
    10 years of data and you have 2 deaths?
    That’s the whole case for pasteurizing milk in this country?
    Will the State sue those horrible little lemonade stands next?
    How about going after yard sales for not collecting sales taxes?
    Our Arab Spring is coming.

    • It gets worse. Those two deaths cited by the CDC as “tied to raw milk or raw milk products” actually came from improperly made Mexican “queso blanco,” commonly called “bathtub cheese.”

      The CDC has recently admitted there have been no deaths from raw milk in over ten years.

      Mark Twain echoed Benjamin Disraeli in condemning “lies, damn lies, and statistics.” The US CDC and FDA are guilty of making up their own stories that are unsupported by their own data.

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