Comments for: Four men killed in Palermo crash

Posted Dec. 25, 2011, at 6:33 p.m.
Last modified Jan. 27, 2012, at 2 p.m.

PALERMO | Two brothers and a father and son were killed Christmas Day in an automobile accident that ranks as the deadliest in Maine in 2011. Tyler Manduca, 18, and his 21-year-old brother Kyle Manduca, both of Bucksport, as well as 64-year-old Dennis Sturges and his father, Roy Lucier, …

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  • Anonymous

    OMG — This is so Sad and of all days  —CHRISTMAS — :( — My heart goes out to the families — <3

  • Anonymous

    I was suppose to be in this very spot at just about the exact time this happened today. My thoughts and prayers are with all those involved.

  • Kind of a bummer to read about so many deaths on a day when we gather with loved ones.

    Edit: His facebook post from nine hours ago and I’m posting this so people can remember.

    Kyle Manduca

    ITS SNOWING! MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS!

    Share · 9 hours ago near Bucksport, ME ·

    • Anonymous

      “Kind of a bummer” how about Tragic. 

      • My use of the saying “kind of a bummer” is a defensive response that helps me cope with the tragic loss of so many lives on a day that is supposed to be about hugging loved ones, not mourning them.

      • Anonymous

        It’s a bummer, it’s tragic, it’s sad, it’s awful. Unfortuantely you know two of the indivuals so you can’t be be biased, but now is not the time to try and get people fired up. Shame on you Seth!

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for adding that =) He is going to be missed so freaken much.

      • You are welcome and it is very surreal, at least to me to glimpse into a life of someone that nine hours ago was alive.

        I wish you the best Bella143 in your time of need.

  • Anonymous

    Two of the guys were brothers such a heartbreak for a family to loose two son’s two brothers and two uncles. Such a tragedy no parent should have to go through this.

    • Anonymous

      This is devestating. I’m in complete shock.

      • Anonymous

        I am so sorry I can’t even begin to imagine.

    • I was one of the kids supervisors and am very upset about this news. He was a very unique individual wo did not care what others thought of him and was never afraid to be himself. I think everyone he touched and knew is all feeling very upset tonight.

      • Anonymous

        I am so sorry for your loss such a tragedy. Those kind of people are far and few and precious especially in a kid.

      • I agree they both were great kids.

        • DonHorchKingofMen

          Yeah,Im sure the older guy and his dad were really good people too….

  • Anonymous

    No gift is as precious as the love for a family member.
    Rest in Peace gentleman.

  • What an awful story to read on Christmas evening .. tragic ..

  • waynorth1

    OMG…..so sad for the families.  God bless.

  • Anonymous

    My heart goes out these families, so sorry for your loss at a time meant for sharing.

  • Anonymous

    My heart bleeds for all families involved, as I could’ve lost my daughter last year. My 20 year old lost it on slush last year and went over a guard rail landed almost rolling into a river, her car just over a year old. I was so proud of her today as she left over 30 minutes ahead of us with a car load of teenagers and we caught up with her. To read this, next year we will stay home. It reminds us, no matter how slow we go, if someone crosses the line, its unpreventable. R.I.P. to all 4  men. So sorry for all of your losses, may you find peace.

  • Simply put…this breaks my heart.

  • Anonymous

    May blessings of comfort and peace wrap around the families of those that were lost. Lighting four candles in their memory. ~Peace~

  • Anonymous

    My wife and I came across this accident on our way home to Belfast.  We saw the cars.  I don’t know how anyone could have survived.  Sure hated to tell her that.  What an awful, awful, day for these families.

    My thoughts are with them this sad Christmas Day…

    • DonHorchKingofMen

      I saw it too.It was unbelieveable.Huge debris field ..It was awful..So bad…

  • Anonymous

    This tragedy did not have to happen. The Father and son would still be alive if the teenager had
    not been driving to fast for the conditions. It’s a tragic loss for everyone.
    One that was preventable. I feel awful that a 64 year old son and an 83 year old father lost their lives this way and I feel bad for the families of the teenagers.

    • Anonymous

      This is my greatest fear.  That’s why I always take back roads as much as possible; less chance of meeting other traffic.  These crashes are so tragic just because they are so preventable; very sad indeed.   RIP to all

    • Anonymous

      While your statements may be true, they are cruel. Two families are suddenly without two of their family members. Have some respect for the living if you have none for the dead. You are judging the 18 year old posthumosly, shame on you. RIP to the four people in the accident. Condolences to the families of them.

      • Anonymous

        Put yourselves in the shoes of the victims families. I lost my Dad when a car with four  teenagers crossed the yellow line and hit him head on. They survived but they did not care
        what happened and back in those days charges were never pressed. I still regret the loss for the families of those involved including the teenagers families. I mean no disrespect for anyone. It just makes my heart sick and brings back terrible memories.

        • Anonymous

          I am sorry for your loss. That being said, the statements that were made will not change the outcome of the tragic accident. The families need support not critisim of their son.

          • DonHorchKingofMen

            No it wont,but maybe itll give inexperienced drivers cause to s l o w down,and put their phones and other devices away…Im not saying this was the case here,but I am on the roads everyday,and see way way too much.

          • Anonymous

            While age may have been a contributory factor to this tragic crash, weather and road conditions don’t really care how old you are.

            i.e.

            1) A 76 year old Orrington woman recieved minor injuries when she failed to negotiate a 90 degree turn in Hudson yesterday. “The road was covered with a dusting of snow, and Sullivan may have been traveling too fast for the conditions he said.” http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/25/news/bangor/orrington-woman-suffers-minor-injuries-in-hudson-accident/

            2) A State Trooper and a 41 year old women escape serious injury in a crash in Wallagrass Friday when “her vehicle veered out of control on snow- and ice-covered roads and spun across the centerline…Poor weather conditions and speed were factors in the crash. http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/24/news/aroostook/police-officer-women-escape-serious-injury-in-crash/?ref=polbeat

            Weather, road conditions and speed are mentioned in all three articles.

          • rdc_assistant

            well said!

          • Anonymous

            Agreed.. WELL SAID! Thank You!

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        He wasnt ‘judging anyone” Facts are fact.Since when is it forbidden to assign blame to anyone for anything?Maybe thats why kids and adult to think they are the only ones on the planet, especialy when driving.The article clearly states who was at fault.Im sure the insurance companies will as well. We all make mistakes and have accidents,Its just too bad that this mistake wiped out 4  lives.Very very sad.But it didnt happen because it was ‘no ones fault”.Sorry,but this one is pretty clear…

  • Anonymous

    How tragic.  I feel for all of their loved ones!

  • Tyler was a great kid and all my prayers are with  mother and sister of both Tyler and Kyle.  I which DOT was funded to provide proper road care but this is the results of  LePage  and TEA Party politics not to fund anything or care about anyone but themselves and not raising taxes. In this Christmas season we all can give a few more dollars to prevent this pain and the the loss of four loved ones in our communities.

    • Anonymous

      Utter nonsense, Denise. DOT was out busting their butts to clear the roads. No matter how much money is spent, it takes time to accomplish. People simply refuse to slow down and take proper precautions when driving in conditions like these and they wind up off the road in a ditch or involved in a collision with another vehicle. My heart goes out to the families of all four, but your ridiculous claims are neither helpful to , or supportive of, either family. Just childish political rhetoric. This is not the time or place for it.

    • Anonymous

      Remember it’s overtime on holidays and weekends, yet the DOT is still usually out there.

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        You cant blame DOT for everything.Everyone complains that they dot want “a nanny state” with too many laws.Well,maybe folks should obey the laws that are n place and that make sense?

        • Anonymous

          You’re right, people need to act with common sense, especially when road conditions are hazardous.   Same with those two Hermon boys who died due to excess speed.  I think we’ve all sped at some point in our lives, and were lucky enough to live through it.  Unfortunately, these people were not.   Very sad, but as someone said already, preventable.  

    • Anonymous

      You are wrong. This event was the result of someone not driving for the conditions that were present.  Keeping your vehicle under control regardless of the conditions is your responsibilty not DOT’s.

    • Anonymous

      Not the responsibility of DOT to make people slow down when road conditions are hazardous, it lies with the driver(s).  As Alexander Hamilton said, “If men were angels, we would not need government.”

    • Anonymous

      Well said

    • Anonymous

      Bull cookies!!  Slowing the F down would help in many cases. I know that if I have to be to work at a certain time and the roads are crap, I will leave a bit earlier than I normally would. Quite simple really.
      My condolences to the families of both parties. The whole thing stinks

  • Anonymous

    prayers and thoughts go to their families

  • Anonymous

    My heart goes out to both families!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks and prayers for the responders who probably voulentarlily gave up their Christmas holiday to respond to this tragedy.  Condolences to family and friends of the victims.

  • Anonymous

    Praying that the families of these men will find the strength they need to deal with this terrible loss.

  • this was NOT an accident, . this was a crash

    an accident is unpreventable
    this was a crash,preventable. this was caused driving too fast

    accident=unpreventable
    crash=preventable

    • first get some manners, and remember, whether it had to do with “speed” or not, how would you feel if this had been your family and someone else was making this kind of comment.  Have some respect and keep opinions to your self. 

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        I dont know what Hhh said,but the article DOES say it was due to excessive speed on the suv’s part.Just sayin’. Maybe you should be mad at the article?

        • Guest

          Shame on Lisa for replying to an offending post …. she’s just trying to teach Hhh some manners as that person has posted more than one offensive comment about this tragedy. Just sayin’   

          • Guest

            Sorry that Lisa was offended by such a benign comment, but who, exactly, is Lisa or anyone else to “teach someone manners” on these sites?   Lobby for the addition of a ‘dislike’ button  instead of preaching.  It is called the comment section and while sympathy is nice, it isn’t required (following the rules, of course).  

          • Guest

            Right, but you know as well as I do, tasteless comments when people lose their lives is just heartless. A dislike button would’ve been great and thanks for your reply, though.   

            To the friends and family of these 4 men, thoughts and prayers in healing. 

          • Guest

            And thank you for your reply. We’ll just have to agree to disagree whether the comment by Hhhh was tasteless, offensive, preaching condescendingly, or something to be ignored.
            That’s the crux of it. 
            Peace, and a good  NewYear for you and yours. :-)

        • excessive speed for the conditions is NOT what was said – It said (oh I cut and pasted FROM the article) –  ‘Light snow was falling at the time and Manduca was driving too fast for the road conditions, according to a press release from McCausland. ‘  If only I could underline to fast FOR the road conditions………..

          With that said, that could mean that the speed limit was 50 – yet since it was snowing even 40 was too fast.  He was actually a very cautious driver;  so being inexperienced (this was his 1st winter driving long distances), he may have thought he was doing ok – going under the limit.  No ONE will actually EVER know the truth….but if people would stop and think…..the grade of the road, the slippery conditions and then sliding on ice etc. (that alone can speed up a car – oh any experienced driver knows that) then people might stop speculating and just be less judgmental and just offer their condolences to the families instead.  

          My thoughts and prayers go out to the Lucier/Sturgis/Sidelinger families for their losses… please know I am so sorry for your loss & that since last night I have had you in my thoughts and prayers and hope you know someone out there understands the loss of loved ones…..With that said – I will miss my boys…….. 

          • Anonymous

            Your comment is pointless. What does it matter if it was “excessive speed for the conditions” or ” driving too fast for the road conditions “, as it states in the article? They both mean the same thing. The bottom line, in either case, is that the driver wasn’t going slow enough, given the road conditions at the time. Condolences to their families.

          • Anonymous

            Her comment is NOT pointless…. It’s people like you, that make me so upset.. These were my BROTHERS! Whether or not you think that he was going too fast, like the article says 
             ‘Light snow was falling at the time and Manduca was driving too fast for the road conditions, according to a press release from McCausland. ‘ (oh I copy and pasted as well… (: ) Which means that, maybe he should have only been doing 35 but was going 40… How dare, ANYONE!! accuse my brother for this.. It was an ACCIDENT! It could have happened to absolutely anyone!! And unfortunately it just so happened to be them… EVERYONE who is commenting negatively, think before you speak… Because their family (Me being the sister) reads these comments.. 

      • Anonymous

        I agree. That comment was absolutely tasteless. 

    • rdc_assistant

      too fast? well they have not stated what the POSTED limit on that road was nor have they said exactly how fast he was going…. the unwritten “RULE” is to drive for the conditions so that could mean a different speed to another! Its an accident do you seriously think that he ment to do this??

    • Anonymous

      I’d like to know how fast the white car was going to turn a subaru station wagon into the shape of an L!

      • Anonymous

        The speed at which the Subaru was traveling also fits into the equation. Very sad situation. Condolences to the families.

  • hey-I’m-your-man

    Does Maine have yearly car inspections of tires, brakes, shocks, steering system, exhaust and windows?

    • Anonymous

      Your point?

      • hey-I’m-your-man

        I don’t have a point . . . I have a question? – thus the use of the question mark at the end of my sentence.

        • Anonymous

          Yes. Annual inspections are required and a sticker applied as evidence of passing. Cars 25 years old and over do not have to abide and are considered “antiques”.

          • DonHorchKingofMen

            Really? I didnt know that.So my neighbors 86 Cutlass dosent need a sticker? Interesting. So,do you have to get an “antique” classification on your registration?

          • Anonymous

            I’m not sure about the inspection sticker, but yes, you do need an antique plate. However, there are limitations on how much the vehicle can be driven when it’s registered as an antique. You can find more info here;

            http://www.dmv.org/me-maine/license-plates.php 

          • Anonymous

            you can register as antique yes. but it limits your driving of it

          • Anonymous

            only if you register them as antique. then they legally are only allowed to drive them to shows, in parades, to fairs ect.. How do I know? Cuz my father in law has on old convertible that passed inspection but still got ticketed for every day driving bt the MSP

    • DonHorchKingofMen

      Yes.If you are clever and broke,you can go to a guy in Waldo,and buy a sticker tho..He is always up for a trade.

  • Anonymous

    Another young, over-confident driver behind the wheel.  I would not have gotten in that car with him with the slippery conditions.  My 19 year old grandson and I go out to dinner occasionally.  I started refusing to go in his car because he drove too fast so we went in my car.  Eventually, it sank in that he could hurt someone he loved and he settled down.

  • Anonymous

    Inexperienced teen driver,  rural route covered in snow, and a 4 wheel drive that makes you go in the snow, but, alas, handling and stopping are like any other 3000 pound piece of metal on ice.

    Lots of SUV’s passing on the Interstate last night despite the snowcovered passing lane. A 4 wheel drive is not a magic carpet people. Slow it down out there for all of us that are trying to get somewhere.

    • Anonymous

      Rt 3 is not what I would consider a “rural route”.  It is the major thoroughfare for that area connecting Belfast and the surrounding towns with Augusta and used by out-of-staters to reach Acadia and points Downeast.  It is a well traveled road.  It should have been kept open and clear.

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        Should have yes,but the snow was constant.Its always good to be especially careful when it is snowing.An 18 years old driver might have excellent reflexes,but the experience just isnt there..So sad for the gentleman with his father. They were both local and well loved.A bad thing all the way around.Speed and snowy roads.Always dangerous.

      • Anonymous

        Route 3 was open but it wasn’t clear. What happens when a snow plow passes by? Snow begins to build up again. Drivers need to slow down. It is far better to arrive a few minutes late than never to arrive at all.

      • Anonymous

        The State is too busy giving all it’s money to welfare and has nothing left over for road maintenance.  It’s a shame and I agree the roads should be kept better.  Thoughts and prayers to the families involved.

        • Anonymous

          Sorry — didn’t mean to like this. 

          Please — SAVE IT.  No one wants to hear your politics right now.

        • Anonymous

          would you be in favor of paying for more state employees (truck drivers), plow trucks, and materials. Salt alone is over &65.00 per ton not including the $152,000 plow truck that is required to plow the roads

      • Anonymous

        Everyone wants the state & towns to reduce their budget, but these snow covered roads are the price we pay for saving a little $$$ on our tax bill

      • Anonymous

        As a general rule, you can tell how “major” a route is based on the number of digits in the route number.  Rt. 3, one digit, major road.  Rt. 1, Route 7, etc.  All have one digit, and are major routes.  Rt. 11, a major road, to be sure, but not in the same league as, say, Rt. 1 or Rt. 3 or Rt. 7.  Two digits.  Three digits, even less traffic.  Route 141, Route 137, Route 202, Route 302.  All still carry a lot of traffic, but are seen to carry less traffic than Rt. 1, 3, 7, etc.

        It’s also a good indicator how good the road will be maintained.  Route 1, Route 3, Route 7, are all maintained pretty well in the winter (with regard to snow removal, etc.)  They also seem  to get better and more frequent maintenance.  

        I was on Route 3 yesterday afternoon, and came across this accident.  It was a horrible horrible accident.  But the snow removal when I was going across was decent, and they were doing a decent job.  My opinion from what I saw was that there surely was someone who wasn’t driving appropriately to the weather conditions.

        • rdc_assistant

          of course they come and fix up the road conditions when there has been an accident that is how this works you know!

          • Anonymous

            Of course they do.  Gosh, I’d hope they do!  

            I drove from Portland to Augusta to Belfast to Monroe yesterday afternoon, and found that the roads were exactly what you were expect from roads that were being maintained, being plowed, being sanded.  We drove according to road and weather conditions, and had no problems.

            There seems little doubt that drivers involved were not driving for the road conditions that existed.

    • Anonymous

      route three is a good road when bare but when snowy very nasty. alot of out of staters prefer to drive to bangor then go to bar harbor but route three is the shortest way 

  • God be with them!

  • Anonymous

     Maybe the state of Maine should stop cutting corners when it comes to taking care of their roads.  I remember when Rt 3 was kept clear during storms and it was rare for conditions on that road to be like that even in heavy storms.  In the last few years, though, the state and some towns have skimped on their road budgets. This boy was likely an inexperienced driver and clearly the conditions on the road were very poor, but I really think the State should share in some responsibility in this tragedy. There is no reason why a state like Maine that is so used to this type of weather condition can’t keep these major roads open in minor storms like happened yesterday.  My thoughts and prayers to the families affected by this terrible tragedy.

    • Anonymous

      No. Responsibility lies with individuals. Not the State. The road was open. It was up to anyone driving yesterday to operate according to road conditions. It is awful that countless loved ones lost 4 family members. And my heart goes out to all involved.

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        I agree.Everyone is afraid to “point fingers” and all that,but facts are facts.That could have been anyone in that car w/the gent and his dad.You.Me.My parents.My kids.Think about it.

    • hey-I’m-your-man

      I agree, Maine does not keep their roads up anything like New Brunswick does. Can’t figure out why – but people are loosing lives in Maine because of it!

      • DonHorchKingofMen

        I know why..People need to S.L.O.W.down when it isnt perfect out. The article said speed was a factor. Ever drive home on a rainy foggy night and have some yahoo tailgate you w/brights on?Even if you slow down and almost pull over,they just keep on your tail.Ive begun pulling over now,dont want to be involved in this foolishness.DOT can only do so much.It is up to US to use common sense.A friend of mine had a DOT truck run her and her dad off the road on a corner.She pulled a u-turn and followed them to their hut.Got their names,reported them and got apologies.Even DOT folks need to use common sense.I cannot imagine the sadness and grief of these two families this morning.Horrible.So sad and SENSELESS…..

      • Anonymous

        it is because you and everyone else wants to pay a little less taxes. This is the cost of reducing road maint budgets.

        • hey-I’m-your-man

          Believe me – I along with many others want the roads taken care of – it has to do with how money is alocated NOT an increase in taxes.

          • Anonymous

            Let me explain it does relate to an increase in taxes when you need to update the equipment. Ten years ago we used to be able to purchase a new truck for roughly $45,000 and that same truck today is $132,000, i know because i just bought one. Salt used to be $25-30 PER TON THIS YEAR IT IS $70 per ton, and fuel i think we all know what fuel prices have done if 10 years. So it is impossible to keep the roads as good as we did 5 years ago with increasiing budgets. If you know a way municipalities can provide winter road maint without increasing their budgets please tell.

          • hey-I’m-your-man

            Maine roads have never been up to par compaired to New Brunswick roads. Not today, not 5 years ago not 40 years ago. I have driven all over North America and overall the US has the worst road matainance, and plowing that I have ever see. They use trucks that are under par, mix salt with sand that is not capable of keeping up with the ice that is being formed on the roads. Just out of curiosity – have you ever traveled to New Brunswick, NS, PEI, ONT or Quebec? If not take a trip and even in the worst storms, the roads are great and far fewer incidences then in Maine. All in all, Maines people are putting up with crappy roads, crappy plowing when their is NO NEED TO! Money needs to be spent wisely and on better equipment that is better taken care of!

    • Anonymous

      If road conditions “were very poor” people need to slow down. A few minutes late to an appointment or family gathering is better then never arriving at all.

      And my condolences to both families for their loses.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t blame the state.  People have to drive according to conditions. 

    • Anonymous

      HOW DO YOU FIGURE IT WAS THE STATE’S FAULT? DID MAINE TELL THE WEATHER TO SNOW?? WAKE UP

    • Anonymous

      Maybe you should blame the church for creating Christmas as a distraction from Yule.  Then people wouldn’t feel the need to go out in conditions they normally wouldn’t have.

  • Anonymous

    Again, it’s very poor judgement for comments to be open on articles such as this.

    A few pennies in ad impressions trump common decency, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    I do not know either of these families, but that does not stop this day from being the hardest day of their lives. I can’t even fathom the devistation. The most important thing to remember is THEY KNEW YOU LOVED THEM, AS THEY DID YOU. That love will help to carry you through. My heart goes out to you all.

  • Anonymous

    So horrible. And preventable. My condolences to both families.

    • rdc_assistant

      how are ACCIDENTS preventable?? how unconsiderate to the family WHICH I AM FROM

      • Anonymous

        My condolences. People use the word “accident” in the wrong way sometimes. For instance, : you are walking right next to a cliff- you know it is there & that to prevent going off it you need to be more than ordinarily careful…it is your choice. You choose not to accept that the cliff is there….you get too near the edge & slip off. That is not an accident. Same with this….bad weather, bad roads. You choose to go too fast for the possible hazards that are almost certain to crop up- maybe you do this because of age & inexperience…you crash.That is not an accident either. An accident occurs when all the conditions show it could not have happened, yet it did. I am so very sorry for your loss, & as time passes you may see the truth. I lost my fiancee , many years ago, in an “accident”- he was traveling too fast in bad weather conditions also-  it need not have happened . Believe me, I know how you feel, but I wanted you to see that I am not being inconsiderate, but only truthful, & right now you are too grief stricken to see the truth. 4 people were killed & it need not have happened.

    • Anonymous

      Some long stretches of road were fine last night, and then all of a sudden there would be one spot that wasn’t… I’m going to have to say this wasn’t necessarily preventable. We don’t know exactly how fast Tyler was going but sure, he maybe could have slowed down, however, again… this was an accident. If this happened on a bright sunny day in July and he was excessively speeding and lost control, then sure that would probably be considered preventable. This was a horrible, uncomprehensible ACCIDENT.

      • Anonymous

        You are exactly right.  My husband and I were traveling last night and were driving approximately 45 MPH (5 mph below the posted the speed limit) as the roads were completely bare.  Quicker than you can snap your finger, we came up over the rise of a hill to roads that were completely snow covered and icy.  Thankfully my husband saw it in time and had a chance to slow down.  It was a complete surprise to us!

  • Anonymous

    this is so sad, my heart and my prayers go out to both families. Yes the roads were bad and perhaps he was driving too fast for it, but it does not negate the fact that 2 families are now in mourning, and my heart breaks for them. We all drive too fast sometimes, we have just been blessed enough for it not to turn tragic for us, yet. Judge not, lest ye be judged. 

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes I wonder why I bother reading the comment sections of these tragic stories.  These boys are kids my kids went to school with and were friends with.  They were both good kids from a good family.   The negative comments by some with little regard for the feelings of either family are undeserving and thoughtless to say the least.   My heart goes out to the families of all of the deceased, and to the emergency personnel who responded.

  • Anonymous

    With regard to the roads……hasn’t Maine had a fairly snowless winter so far???  There should be no reason for cutting corners at this point!

    • Anonymous

      They weren’t cutting corners. Trucks were out in full force. I was on that very stretch of road shortly before the accident. Although snow was accumulating, the road was quite navigable, as demonstrated by others traveling the same road, but who were adjusting their speed in relation to the existing road conditions.

      • Anonymous

        Fair enough……

  • Anonymous

    My heartfelt condolences to all the family and friends of these 4 men.

  • Anonymous

    And do you know why the roads are better in NB? It is because they have one of the largest salt deposits in North America. I have been to Pugwash NB to see the salt mine where trucks are lined up for miles to get loaded up with salt. I bet their roads are better because they are getting their salt dirt cheap and why wouldn’t they it is funded through the GOV just like everything else in NB. Every tax payer thinks the State or Town can bid out their road maint to the lowest bidder, and lowest bid is the better deal lol, i have seen with my own eyes when you bid out a state road to a contractor for winter road maint and in a few years the state takes the contract away because of poor quality of work. If the state is doing the plowing at cost why do people think that a contractor is going to do a better job? He has to make money to stay in business and he is using the same equipment that runs on the same fuel so it does not take a smart man to see they are going to make their money by not plowing as often as the MDOT or Town crew.

  • Bunny Gendreau

    How Terribly SAD – the families will find Christmas hard for years to come.  My Sympathies  to each member of the families – God Bless

  • Anonymous

    First off I need to say, that I am very sorry for the 
    Sturges and Lucier family. My thoughts and prayers go to you!!Secondly, I would like to add the the Manduca boys were my BROTHERS.. I’m not commenting on here for sympathy.. But, I would like to let everyone know that is commenting negatively.. It’s not needed..! This was an accident, it could have happened to anyone. Unfortunately it just so happened to be them.. So please, before you comment, thinking that you are all high and mighty, think before commenting.. Because the families are reading these as well.. My heart is absolutely breaking.. My heart hurts so bad..! And reading distasteful comments from people, hurts me even more.. 

    • Anonymous

      Kailyn – I’m so sorry for your loss. Your uncle Stacy is a very good friend of mine, I told him this morning and mean it, if there’s anything I can do to help you out through all this please let us know. I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. Praying for healing and peace.

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