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By Heather Steeves, BDN Staff

Posted Nov. 07, 2011, at 6:34 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 08, 2011, at 11:38 a.m.

Courtesy of Chasse family

Michael Chasse

MINOT, Maine — Jeannine Greenleaf hates to admit it, but she is relieved her son is dead. In fact, she prayed for his death.

Michael Chasse, 36 , died Nov. 3 in New Jersey State Prison. He was sentenced to be imprisoned until he was 95 years old for various crimes, including holding two people hostage at the Maine State Prison in 2008.

“I prayed so hard to God that Michael not have to live in prison for the rest of his life. I couldn’t imagine my son in his 30s being there in his 80s. I prayed God would take him in the night. Give him a heart attack. Just take him when he is sleeping and have him feel no pain. Take him out of his misery,” Chasse’s mother said Monday.

Greenleaf, 58, of Minot got her wish.

According to her, Chasse died in the night of a heart attack in his cell. He had no medical problems that would have spurred a heart attack, according to Greenleaf. The New Jersey Medical Examiner’s Office has yet to release an official cause of death.

Not many mothers would have wished death on their sons, but not many mothers have been through what Greenleaf has.

According to the mother, her son has had trouble behaving since at least kindergarten, when he was nearly kicked off the bus for the year because of his behavior, though she couldn’t remember exactly why. Though he grew to be 6 foot, 7 inches tall, he had been bullied his entire life, right through the time he was in Maine State Prison, she said.

During his teenage years, Chasse was often in trouble with police over drugs. Then, in 1997, when he was in his early 20s, Chasse was sent to prison for aggravated assault and robbery after he broke into the home of Robert Cohen in Brewer while armed with a knife. Cohen shot Chasse twice, claimed self-defense and was not charged in the incident.

After that, prison sentences kept stacking up. At his trial for the 1997 crimes, Chasse escaped by throwing laundry detergent into the eyes of two officers as they led him out of the courthouse. He then ran into a woman’s house and held her hostage briefly. When he left the house with a knife he took from the kitchen, he stabbed two police officers who confronted him. He then commandeered a pickup truck and fled again. He was arrested five hours later in a canoe on Sebec Lake.

On June 30, 2008, while incarcerated at the Maine State Prison, Chasse locked a librarian and another inmate in an office before stabbing the librarian several times, cutting the prisoner’s face and demanding pornography from prison staff. He held the two people hostage and effectively shut down all prison operations for about seven hours before police burst in through office windows and apprehended him.

Chasse never blamed his mother for his actions in life. Even he understood his death might ease the pain he seemed to be causing his mother, his older sister and three younger sisters, Greenleaf said. He twice tried to kill himself while in Maine State Prison.

“Michael said, ‘If I die you will feel just one more hurt. I won’t keep hurting you over and over and over again,’” Greenleaf recalled from some of the hundreds of letters and phone calls she shared with her son.

Greenleaf finds peace knowing that when Chasse died he was the happiest he had been in a long time. He liked the New Jersey prison, where he was transferred in January. She knew he was happy because of the letters he wrote.

“The [New Jersey] prison lets you have so much property in your room it don’t feel like you’re in jail. It feels like you are on house arrest. We’re allowed porn and tobacco. This place is exactly the type of place I want to spend my whole sentence at,” Chasse wrote in a letter in late March. “I’ve decided to try my hardest to be good as long as they keep me here.”

Plus, he wrote, he had a girlfriend. Greenleaf said that a woman from Bath had read news articles about Chasse during his trial for holding two people hostage in prison. She had dreams about him and began writing him letters. The two corresponded for several months and she was planning to visit him for his 37th birthday on Nov. 26.

The first time she will see Chasse will be at his funeral on Friday.

Part of what gives Greenleaf peace is knowing Chasse was loved.

“In the end, God took him before anything bad could happen to him again. He died with a happy heart. He died before he could be beaten or raped or anything by the prisoners. It’s scary but God took him before any bad things happened to him again,” Greenleaf said. “He was finally loved by someone other than his mother, unconditionally. He let go of all his hatred. I’m sure he will be in heaven. He did his penance on Earth.”

On Monday, as she prepared for her son’s funeral, she looked through old pictures — first-day-of-school pictures, birthday pictures — and she laughed with the rest of her family, remembering Chasse fondly.

“My heart will be warmed with his pictures,” Greenleaf said. “These pictures won’t be sorrowful for me. Michael is at peace. He won’t struggle any more.”

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Anonymous

sad – all the way around….
Anonymous

A heart attack at age 36.
Died in his sleep.
In his prison cell all alone.
Imagine that.
RIP.
Anonymous

I don’t know why, but appararently, they won’t let me use the word “ass” when I ask why James Hicks was allowed out of his death sentence in Texas, to come back to Maine to confess to his three murders? This man was no James Hicks, who is evil.
acadiashores

My heart goes out Ms. Greenleaf. A mother’s love is a beautiful thing.
Anonymous

I’m having such mixed emotions reading this article. The mother’s pain, the horrible acts committed by Chasse, the overindulgent NJ prison system…My heart goes out to this mother. May her heart rest now, and may Michael be relieved from the torment that must have been churning in his head.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJYZV7JWWJCPG7BX65EM6UOHZ4 Skowhegan Resident

Now only his victims will have to live out another 50 years.
Anonymous

I am very sorry for his mother. But I guess I’m also a little concerned that some girl had dreams about him and became his girlfriend after reading that he held 2 people hostage while in prison. What about that is appealing, lol. She needs help as well.
Anonymous

From any possible way to view this story, it is heart breaking all the way around. From an obviously Troubled young man too his poor mother as well as all the victims ,my heart and prayers go out to all Involved in this sad, sad story….
Anonymous

This article is very sad, a boy who was troubled grew to a man who was troubled, but I ask myself, what was he troubled about? Behavoir problems as a young boy, which only grew as he did, very sad, maybe with early interventions this boy could have been helped and grown into a wonderful man. For anyone out there with a 5 year old boy who is have problems, take this and attempt to get your child help. Although, maybe he tried to get help and it didn’t work out, or was not has his hands reach, I have no idea, but I see a little boy who possibly with some professional help could have lived a long happy life with his loving mother and family. May his mother have peace I am sorry for loss.
Anonymous

why must you always be so hateful in your comments
Anonymous

I believe that most people know that a high percentage of mothers with sons who have done some horrible things (perhaps even Charles Manson’s mother should she outlive her son) will gather with others and the media when their sons die and reminisce about the “good ole days.” And someone in the family or a close friend no doubt will run out and get a tattoo memorializing the little reprobate. So what is the point of a story like this? It surely doesn’t pass the test for enlightenment.
Anonymous

There would not be a circumstance that I would pray for my son to die. Ever. My love is so true for my children, that there is nothing they could do to make me love them any less. I agree with you Kevin. BTW Clarkie, it doesn’t matter what Kevin believes, the fact if the matter is, this so-called mother believed it. I understand being his mother must have been tiring, but one should never pray for their children to die. Sad story, Oh, and while I am making people mad and causing hate and discontent, I’m not his mother. That being said, there is one less tax sucker in prison because of his death. RIP, you can’t hurt anyone else anymore.
Anonymous

It is obvious that you have never been a mother.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

I’m male so there is no way I could ever be a mother but I am a father but that doesn’t seem to matter.
Anonymous

Come off it Kevin, the mother always wants to smother the thing that isn’t going to make it to death. It’s a maternal instinct. I know for you mother is only half a word, but be a little more understanding for once.
Anonymous

Kevin, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if you dear mother were praying for you right not as we speak!
Kevin_Of_Bangor

Canlday I’m a very outspoken atheist and a lot of people have a problem with that. What has me disgusted about this story is that a lot of people are going to be ok with her praying for her son’s death and she thinks she will see him again in heaven.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

What?
Kevin_Of_Bangor

My mother is dead.

Part of her resides in this little urn that sits on my computer desk though. Do you think her urn will say a prayer?
Anonymous

God’s report card isn’t very good. Darkness was upon the face of the deep. He first created the Heavens and the Earth, then the waters which he divided from the waters, and God said, “Let there be light” and there was light. God made plants, then animals that ate plants, then animals that ate animals and then God created man. After that God rested. Apparently he couldn’t quite get that rope to hang over that big branch on the the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, cause if he had he’d have hung himself right there. I’ve seen stuff growing in leftovers in the fridge that impress me more than most of the people in government and on this cite. Good night!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Regina-Hosebeast/100002095287763 Regina Hosebeast

“He died before he could be beaten or raped or anything by the prisoners.” Excuse me but he was a prisoner, and a dangerous one. I’m glad the mom has a “happy heart” knowing God took him. However I think it more likely the other guy took him, and I’m betting the long list of victims he left in his wake are relieved.

Stories like this should not be published. The mother’s comments and emotions are completely understandable. A normal parent has unconditional love for their kids, but this declaration of love only inflames the public, and a lot of hurtful and unnecessary comments are made, including this one. It’s water under the bridge. Sad for the parents and victims alike. They need time to heal and find closure. This story does not help.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

How is praying for the death of your own child a beautiful thing?
Kevin_Of_Bangor

So you are 100% ok with her praying for the death of her child?
Anonymous

Be more under standing. The rest was supposed to be a joke, although animals who give birth to animals with birth defects often sleep on top of them, thus smothering them to death.
Anonymous

If her urn is praying for your demise and it is God’s will I am certain you will die.
Anonymous

If there’s a special kind of Hell for people that stupid she just might meet him there. In the mean time the world is a little bit safer due to the hard work, and maybe a little help from our maker.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

Thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. But if the guy wants to confess he can do it in writing.
Anonymous

Not to be insensitive, but no mother brings a monster like this into the world and doesn’t know it pretty early on. The government used to stay out of such affairs, but she should have put him down as soon as she was sure what he was. IMHO
Anonymous

If you have ever had anyone close to you dying of cancer, you would understand how someone could pray for death. To be in such intolerable pain that has led people to end their own lives. This story should not have been published, but kept in this woman’s own private life. It only seems to have inflamed some people.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

My mother died of cancer and nobody was praying for her death. They all were praying that this so called god would heal her but I was the only one that knew she was going to die.

So don’t make an attempt to preach to me about knowing the pain of losing a loved one to cancer.

I had to tell my 10 year old child that grandma had died and that was not an easy thing to do.
Anonymous

Sorry Bd…..I was referring to James Hicks. How he murdered 3 women in Maine, fled to Texas, murdered one more there and got caught raping and murdering an elderly woman in Texas. He was facing the death penalty, and copt a deal with the state of maine out of desperation. He was facing the death penalty in Texas, and knew that if he showed the authorities where the bodies where here in Maine, he would be spared. He now lives at the Maine St. Prison in Warren. Hope you understand now? They are showing my response to their needing to “moderate’ it. It’s the truth about Hicks, heck he has been on national tv about what he has done. That does not excuse, nor am i excusing Chasse. I just find it how stramge and convienient a serial killer is still alive and this guy is dead, that’s all
weezy

When you are relieved of your pain on this earth it is God’s mercy that takes you on to your eternal life. There is no suffering in God’s kingdom. This man had an obvious mental disorder, early on, that caused pain for so many. No one would choose these actions on his own. Like cancer, it attacks and destroys all in its path. Disease does not discriminate. There but for the grace of God, go you and I.
weezy

There are many mentally ill children in this world who have had all the help that can possibly be offered. Many celebrities have had the money to buy their child the best of medical professionals, and still their child suffers mentally, depressed, or violently destructive. Rampant suicides are proof. Even the Kennedy’s had one such unfortunate child out of their many who were of super intelligence. Mental illness requires nursing care, not punishment for a disease you have no control over. Bring back BMHI to house these poor souls. They would be safe, the public would be safe, and our community would once again thrive with many good paying jobs. Setting them loose on our streets without supervision is only a setup for failure.
Anonymous

Being able to put their family members to rest gives the’ families some peace. Their peace is part that justice.
Anonymous

I grew up on a dairy farm and have seen birth and death many times. What you are describing, I have never heard of. The moms I see will lick and nurture even their stillborn.
Anonymous

no, no, no. where do you get this matricide as justice idea?
Anonymous

I think I discovered the ‘special kind of hell’ you referenced above.

It’s reading your comments.
Anonymous

Its a free country, she is allowed to state whatever she wants.
Anonymous

quantum physics says the urn could leap up in the air and whack you up side the head.

:0
Anonymous

Regina Hosebeast: the decider.

you gonna tell us what we can read now Regina? what the press can print?
Anonymous

who cares? it’s a coincidence. she did not actually cause the event.

maybe she said that to reporters to shield her hurt and shame. leave her alone.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

this is why i am for government forced abortion
Anonymous

im sure your mom agrees
Anonymous

sometimes no one can help because the parents are the problem that dont go away.
Anonymous

For his crimes I dont think God took him, but it is a releif to a lot of people he is dead.
acadiashores

It’s beautiful because she wanted to prevent him from suffering. It was eating her alive to think of her son lingering in prison for 40-50 years. If you would read her words you’d understand.
Anonymous

i didnt say that i said you are always mean in your comments, you were talking about how disgusting his mother is, well how about you put yourself in the shoes of somebody else for a day, i think if i was in her shoes i would pray for death to not just for the sake of him but of others as well, he was very disturbed it seems with the actions he took on several occassion, atleast she doesnt have to worry about him anymore
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

i bet the criminal was welfare raised
Anonymous

Whose words were that that said a Brewer victim shot this Chasse guy twice but was not punished for it? The paper or the mother, the victim shouldn’t be punished when some armed person breaks into their home, “he claimed self-defense” and not tired for it. It was self defense and if it had been my home Chasse never would have gone out alive.

This appears to be another example of a type of mental illness that is not of “Remarkable Recovery” and when not treated or not medicated turns into a nightmare for all.
Altho I usually don’t care for some of Kevin of Bangors opinions this time I have to agree to some degree, because this mother seems to not see things as they really are, her son had problems and it appears neither she or anyone else addressed them in a manner that controlled his behavior.
I realize that many people can’t deal with the fact they bore a child with a mental illness, they feel it reflects on them so it’s easier to ignore it and maybe point fingers at others as the fault.
Anonymous

no father in the pic? it is important despite all the pervs who think not !
http://michigal.net Sue

You’re full of spit. You can do all the right things, raise your child properly, and still, when the drugs get hold of them, they’re gone.

And I’m not talking about marijuana. The prescription drugs.

RIP Michael. Condolences to Mrs. Greenleaf.
ladybaroque

Maybe something happened to this young man as a youth that the mother wasn’t aware of. Anger like that comes from something.
http://michigal.net Sue

Why? He didn’t murder anyone.
Anonymous

Define irony.

Someone making wide-sweeping generalizations about someone that makes generalizations…
Anonymous

From what I can tell, everyone in this story has serious, undiagnosed mental problems. A mom wishing death on her son, a son that stabbed multiple people and some girl that dreams about being with a guy that has stabbed multiple people.

I’d laugh about it, but the whole thing is really just sad.
Anonymous

Sad to read but this young man was going to sit in a jail cell until he was 95 years old. What mother’s heart would not break over this? As a mother, I understand completely what she was saying. My thoughts and prayers go out to you.
Anonymous

If his mother would have “put him down”, you’d be calling HER the monster.
Anonymous

I’m just so glad he got to have porn in prison. Prison without porn? That would have been a horrible life! (Seriously: sad for his mother. Still happy he’s dead.)
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

i agree with the mother, i am GLAD he is DEAD

how about some photos of his victims when they
arrived at the emergency room? put those
photos side by side with his smiling photo
AD

The article fails to mention that he fathered Mr. Cohen’s grandchild…………….
http://twitter.com/TheGuardianMH The Guardian

I feel so bad for his mother. We see these criminals all the time who destroy their lives. The thing is, everything they do hurts their families. I hope his mother gets some counseling to deal with this trauma.
Anonymous

Gee, I guess if I go to prison I know where to be transferred! Could it be that the porn etc also included enough recreational drugs to cause a heart attack? If so, spread them around the rest of the population.
Anonymous

I have to agree with you 100% on this… it’s really sad – everyone involved seems to have mental health issues.
Anonymous

Keven of bangor. How do you pack so much wisdom in one head???
Anonymous

Maybe that’s just a moment of honesty on the part of the mother… maybe she feared he would get out and harm more people and himself. Few mother’s would admit that their son would be better off dead than living a horrible self-destructive life that appears to keep getting worse and worse. Few mothers would voice this aloud even when it’s true. Give this woman a break, she didn’t commit any crime and she’s just trying to make sense of the senseless in her grief. She loved her son unconditionally but seemed to be torn between her love for him and her fear that he would continue to harm others and self-destruct.
Anonymous

Let me put this in a way an atheist may understand it. This was a mother’s way of talking about euthanasia to spare her child (and herself) the extreme pain they both must have been going through. Her way of expressing it may not be to your liking but it is a very personal choice. Expressing it openly was just being honest. I am not sure why you find that so hard to understand.
Anonymous

I haven’t got anything good to say about this situation so will keep my thoughts to myself. However you might be able to guess what I’m thinking.
Anonymous

YOU may not have been praying for your mother’s pain to end but how do you know NOBODY was praying to God to release her from pain? You don’t know so don’t pretend that you do. It’s never an easy thing to tell a child that a loved one has passed on. Some of us have had to do it and others have been in the role of child. Death is a part of life.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FAFPBUNT45MDVT46IWVGOEDQLQ Thomas

Good riddance! One less thug in today’s society is a good thing. Hopefully the woman has not created more like him.
Anonymous

The problem is that if he didn’t accept Christ as his Savior before he died, he’ll be spending an eternity in a place much worse than the prison. I hope someone in the jail ministry had a chance to witness to Chasse, and that Chasse accepted Jesus.

His mother and the young lady that was infatuated with his hostage taking actions need mental help….. And Christ.
Anonymous

Really? You’ve never seen a mother dog shun one of her puppies? I didn’t grow up on a farm, but over the years several dogs had puppies. In most every litter, at least one puppy was separated from the litter by the mother dog, and no matter how hard we tried, the puppy always died.
Anonymous

Dear God, readers; only a Mother knows the needs of her children. This Mother, as so many others; has lived through this troubled child of God. God did listen to her prayers, pain and the pain of her child. So you think she wanted a heart attack? No this mother was crying out for someone, somewhere to hear her voice. It Haqs been heard! There is n more pain for her or her son. Does this change his acts of horror? Absolutely not! Please be at peace and now pray for the hearts and souls touched during this young man’s horrifically troubled life. So much in part to the lack of proper diagnosis, follow-up (including the on-going care/negligence) in our present confinement institutions! Let the beginning and ending of Micheal Chasses’s life be a beacon of hope for others for similiar problems, emotional, mental, etc. We hope and pray that the torment, daily hell, these illnesses create will be studied, researched, and lead all those who are hurting, to better understand how we can help those so desperately in need. Know that all people Michael encountered was a direct result of many so-called individuals “passing the buck” during his lifetime. Join in prayer for his soul the peace of his family and know that God will carry the suffering of the innocent touched in this tragedy of lives; be carried in God’s arms and will be shielded from more suffering. Just think for one minute of all the individuals, as a result of not being cared for properly, have been left BY THE WAYSIDE to our society to pick up the pieces. Who and where are these skilled proffessionals we are supposed to have in our beautiful country of research and education.

Please join me and thousands of others and ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WITH MENTAL NEEDS, WITH THE SAME VIGOR WE ADVOCATE FOR OUR ELDERLY, CANCER, AUTISM, AND ALL THE CAUSES WE SUPPORT TO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD.

Why not try today, instead of using this opportunity to speak before we think, put ourselves in the boots of others, leave your bad mouthing to your personal phone calls and not to those of us with purpose in life, let’s try to leave today better than when we had our first cup of coffee!

Try to love more today than yesterday, less today, than tomorrow. (Try it, you might like it.)

No Mainers, I am not one of those out of staters you write about! I too call Maine my home, it’s just that the military has changed all that.
Anonymous

Why did this all of a sudden become a witch aimed at Kevin? He expressed his opinion about this article and all of a sudden, he’s the monster in the closet. Whether or not you know someone that has had cancer or any other horrible illness including mental health issues, not many people pray for someone to die. Being released from pain, yes, death more than likely not. I agree with Kevin.
Anonymous

You are mean.
Anonymous

My mother also died of cancer at age 48. I had 2 children a 1 yr old and an 8 year old. I know the feeling of having to tell the children about their Grandma. I also did not want to see my mother suffer any more pain. It was a blessing when she passed, she had suffered so much her last year. I’m not preaching to you Kevin, only hoping you can show a little compassion for others and their feelings.
Anonymous

Synopsis: A mentally disturbed, dangerous and angry son is raised by a single and seemingly unstable mother. It seems his four sisters are doing well, but why? Where is the father in all of this? And why would a young lady be infatuated with him based on a hostage situation? This is the way it is for far too many in this nation. This is the way it is when God is not a part of peoples’ lives.

If we don’t get back to God, this will be the norm in America.
Anonymous

This is the reality we all live in…..if you prefer to live in a fantasy land….Disney may have some openings……I suspect his death will help with closure.
Anonymous

If that’s what you want to believe. Not everyone is Christian. There are other religions out there that don’t damned you to “eternity in a place much worse than the prison”.
Anonymous

“put him down”???? What the….????
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A2KG3TXBIODNNC6FDKA2PXEEDY Small Fry

he’s very top-heavy.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A2KG3TXBIODNNC6FDKA2PXEEDY Small Fry

i would almost agree the torturing someone and holding someone else hostage and scared out of their wits is almost worse. i mean, I’m sure they are alive but for the time being, having your face cut up with razor blades and being held in a room with a dangerous person not knowing what is going to happen would probably make me wish i was dead instead.
Anonymous

Im sorry but that is just wrong to wish such a thing about your son! As a mother of 2 boys I couldnt live with out having them in my life no matter if there in jail or not.
Anonymous

Good one!!
Anonymous

Maybe it was the previous post about the mother having “serious mental issues” and the “disgust” for her. I am pretty sure she is in enough pain already.
Anonymous

He is dead, lets not forget he was a prisoner! He assaulted and stabbed people, he locked down the Maine state prison when he took two people hostage and after it was done all he wanted was to see porn! I’m glad he is dead and not costing us tax payers any more money.
Anonymous

Christianity doesn’t damn anyone. It’s a choice that is made. There is only one God, and that is the God of the Bible. And there is only one Way through which we can get to that God, and that is through Jesus Christ. It’s as easy as ABC: Accept, Believe, Commit. I just hope Chasse had the chance to make things right before he died.
Anonymous

Well unfortunately, those religions aren’t truly and honestly connected to the one who created everything. That religion is the only one that matters.
Anonymous

I think that you shouldn’t be so rude towards Regina…it’s her comment, and that’s her view. She’s not trying to be controlling of what the press should and shouldn’t print….gosh.
Anonymous

I (along with anyone else that agrees with me) don’t particularly like the way that you talk about the one who MADE you…He deserves a lot more respect and honor than most of you are giving him.
Anonymous

I’m sorry you missed my point.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DQYJRNTL4E3A3B7OXXQVK74HZM Kathy S

The “other”Kennedy you speak of had no real serious mental illness, at least as far as any information I have found. What she did have was inappropriate behavior for a young female in a family of political climbers of a certain social status. Had she been a young man, her behavior would have been overlooked with a nudge nudge wink wink. Of course, after her forced lobotomy she was certainly damaged and never able to rejoin society.

I guess the moral of that story is to be cautious about the type of help you seek for your troubled child.

This story (Chasse) however is heartbreaking. I know several mothers of children who were/are troubled. They come from all socio-economic backgrounds and family dynamics. Some of these children received “help” some did not. The interventions they received did not really seem at all relevant as to how these children turned out. Some of the most troubling of the kids have been the ones who have grown into the most responsible adults, others have not fared so well.

We can never really know what the future holds for our children. We do the best we can and pray that things turn out OK. I hope, as tragically as this story has ended that both this young man and his mother have found peace.

Those of you who can only find hate and blame in your hearts should go eat worms.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4HN75W2CVMDCTEO26HUVZVOTI Hhhh

excellent point
i am so sik of victims gettin crapped on while
losers like this one are turned into folk heros
Anonymous

Easy as abc, is it?

Just set it and forget it?

Clap on clap off?

Sounds very appealing if you’re a simple-minded soul.

What might Jesus say about unregulated credit default swaps or bundling peoples mortgages into securities and selling them as AAA rated while betting against them at the same time?

Just askin’.
pavint46

I am so sick of people saying that the reason the person went bad was because they grew up in a fatherless home! My two brothers who served their country and one sister and I grew up in a fatherless home and never got in any trouble. I brought my son up in a fatherless home because of death of his father and he has never gotten in any trouble. Also I have seen troubled people that did have a father at home. “I am woman, I can do it”!!
Anonymous

It happens. They know when prolonging an offspring’s life is not in the best interest of the offspring. No mother, human or beast, wants to see her offspring suffer. It’s also survival of the fittest in the non-human world. The weak draw predators and put the rest of the herd or flock at risk.
Anonymous

Good thing you were a fast runner.

Otherwise Mommy would have caught you and put you down eh?
http://www.facebook.com/Christopher.Blackwell1945 Christopher Blackwell

EJParsons, So you happen to believe. However most of the world does not agree with you. Not only are there many gods and goddesses but there are people who believe in none of them. All holy books are written by man and represent man’s attempt to understand deity. However that does not mean that any of them get it right. After all we know nothing about the authors of the various holy book, nor what their reason was for writing the books. If any god wants us to have a holy book, he will provide it himself without the help of human writers. How generous of you to consign a man to your religion’s hell when there are so many other options,
including nothing at all.
http://www.facebook.com/Christopher.Blackwell1945 Christopher Blackwell

A father may be good or bad for a child. It is better to have not father then to have a bad father, perhaps a vicious one. As for your name calling, that tells us you have nothing intelligent to say.
Anonymous

fathers will never understand the pain of a mother!!….I can feel her…She wanted THE BEST for her Son, and a life in Prison sure wasn’t the best… no one knew her son better then she did, only she knew what he would have, or didn’t want….
Anonymous

He’d say : Read the books – it is abomination to use uneven scales… … in other words… dont cheat in business…… and btw.. yup… believing is quite simple…..
Anonymous

He believes in HIS religion.. he believes its the truth.. and he has the right to do so…. get over it..
Anonymous

I dont think anyone cares if you’re an outspoken athiest…. most athiests I have met are as unimpresive as you… big deal…. I think some people care that most of your comments are so freakin’ rude….
Anonymous

Kevin of bangor needs to shut his mouth !
Anonymous

Believe it or not…I am glad he is dead too, that way the taxpaers dont have to pay for his sorry butt
DonHorchKingofMen

Really? You think that “the woman” made him what he was?
DonHorchKingofMen

I didnt see what you said,but if it sparked this much interest,it must have hit a nerve.Good.People keep themselves numb to reality.Rock on,Kevin of Bangor…
DonHorchKingofMen

Hope the urn prays for an easy winter…
DonHorchKingofMen

LOVELOVELOVE this!!!!!
DonHorchKingofMen

So,if he accepted yadadadadada,all would have been forgiven?Heck,where do I sign up?
DonHorchKingofMen

Christianity damnes anyone who dosent agree with their dogma,and then staunchly go about insisting that they dont damn anyone…Like a freakin’ Fassbinder film,if you ask me…
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSBAAXFEXTIBDSRA5X3FA6TSG4 jersey

EJ come on there are many good people who dont believe in God and many disturbed people who do. God was around during the Salem Witch killings, He was in the hearts of the millions of Jews who died. Many countries with different religions have beautiful peace. It is those with Christianity that suffer. You are smarter than this comment.
Anonymous

Of course, it’s a possibility that you’re right. But, then, it’s a possibility that you’re not. And if you’re willing to take the risk, then it’s your decision. Still, somewhere deep inside all of us is the truth. All one has to do is listen to it. I heard it loud and clear. And every time I’m demeaned or berated for my belief, the Truth inside me tells me that all is well.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

Yup, it is all about me.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

I knew nothing about my mothers life. Ok, if you say so.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

She does have serious mental issues and she does disgust me. You can flag this post now too.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

People don’t like to read the truth.
Anonymous

Erma Bombeck could bring it to life with a little help from Steven Speilburg. I’d lay money on that.
Anonymous

You’re sticking up for the wrong person. It sounds like you think I’m blaming the mother. Filicide is widely considered society’s most aberrant act. That’s the act of killing your own child. Of course I don’t expect her to have done that. Advanced ancient societies used to employ this practice in cases such as this. Science and medicine were far advanced beyond where we are now. Wars, cataclysms, famine, plagues, and “leaders” such as religious leaders have wiped out most of this knowledge, but some of it has started surfacing.
Matricide is when you kill your mother. At no point did I say anyone should kill his mother. What I’m saying is that it’s not surprising that his mother wanted his suffering to end. The poor woman was probably a frazzled wreck wondering what he was going to do next. She may have lived in terror of him for herself and others and his peaceful passing probably really did feel to her like answered prayer.I’m not saying filicide is justice. I’m just saying it would have been a better idea than what did happen to the innocent people whose lives he ended or damaged forever. What if he had done these things to your daughter, mother, grandmother, husband, brother, etc.? I’m old enough to remember parents saying, “I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it.” Whether they would do it or not we believed them and it got our attention. There was no Nanny State hanging over their shoulder ready to investigate them for making these threats.
Anonymous

I wouldn’t assume it. I’m sure we’d never get the facts and the woman’s life would be over at least figuratively if not literally.

Is it worse to tell the world you prayed for your son to die or to kill your son who should have died a long time ago?
Anonymous

I’ve worked in a University Research Farm and this is one issue we paid attention to. Raising runts can be fun, but they never fit in and will never mate. I’ve seen people beat animals for sleeping on their young (not employees), thus smothering them; that shows a real lack of understanding of the true job of a mother. I’ve also watched cats dig up dead kittens and carry them around, yowling inconsolably when the kittens are taken away and buried again. But I’ve seen the same cats sleep on and smother their kittens, and then eat them. There was always something not quite right about those kittens.
Anonymous

Well Kevin, I wouldn’t flag your post. I figure you take enough beating on here as it is.
Anonymous

Mommy had more effective means than simple filicide. It was my Daddy I could barely outrun. I’m convinced he’d have killed me if he ever caught me. But I wasn’t a problem kid. I’m not going to hang it all on him though. I hid his liquor and talked too much.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

I’m used to my comments getting flagged and I don’t view it as getting a beaten. I know I’m going to step on toes when I post some of the things I do. I say things that a lot of people don’t like to read but life goes on.
Anonymous

Retro-active abortion, return the defective merchandise still on warranty, don’t sound so surprised. When your own mother is praying for your death you’ve got issues. The myth of the demon child isn’t simple folklore.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QCC3ABRLTIU3EFA26HUIDQZTSM Chris

His mom had time to go get him and help him out long before any of this(before his criminal convictions) .. This was a 6 foot 7″ man who walked around downtown Bangor in the mid-late 90′s)like he owned the place.. He got arrested for stealing things and bringing them into the pawn shop and then going over to his girlfriends(who at the time was a dancer at a well known downtown ”club”) father’s house trying to rob him and then assaulting him with a knife. This guy was a Bangor punk who was let run until he got himself in serious trouble.
Anonymous

Back in Iowa where Hhhh lives they’ve got a governor a lot like ours. I wouldn’t take his government forced abortion quip so lightly.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

Nope, I’m not a republican.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

She prayed to her god and her god granted her prayer request. I’m sure she doesn’t view it as a coincidence.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

And we all know that is not going to happen but thanks for playing.
Anonymous

Personally, I’m relieved he won’t be a taxpayer burden anymore.
If my kid did all this guy did, I’d pray him dead, too.
Anonymous

Do you really think our Maker needs you to stick up for him? Boy do you have delusions of grandeur. Have you ever seen a platypus? God has a sense of humor. What I wrote was a joke. DonHorch actually got it! And there’s this guy: “I have never understood why it should be considered derogatory to the Creator to suppose that he has a sense of humour.” ~William Ralph Inge
and this other guy:
“I don’t know if God exists, but it would be better for His reputation if He didn’t.” ~Jules Renard
Please visit this link http://www.frksj.org/homily_gods_sense+of.htm if you want to read more about our Maker and humor.
Anonymous

uh oh….
I remember that now—there was an ‘issue’ with his use of a firearm and he had to come up with an excuse to not be charged.
http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

Her son died and she said that she prayed to her god and that her god granted her prayer request. Just sorting out the order there.
http://twitter.com/m_ethaniel Mistletoe Ethaniel

Hey, don’t wrap me up in that same box. You can be rude or not, believer or not, and any combination of the above. I happen to also be a very open atheist. I also happen to think your comments are rude, personal, and obnoxious. So there you have it.
Anonymous

Weird story. I hope this mom is at peace now. How sad to have to pray for her own child to die young.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

I’m not going to show any sort of compassion for this women.
Kevin_Of_Bangor

How am I wrapping you up in the same box? There are lots of atheist that don’t agree with each other. That is one of the greatest things about being an atheist. We are not afraid to disagree but I truly don’t care if you or anyone else finds my comments rude, personal and obnoxious.

This is not a popularity contest to me and if you don’t desire to read what I write then move along.
Anonymous

I agree, and that is part of my thought, some children/people with early intervention and treatment lead perfectly normal lives, others no matter what kind of treatment money can buy it is never going to be the answer their mental illnesses, I have no idea the circumstances of this mans life, I’m sure his loving mother tried everything in her power to help him or at least I hope she did. BMHI should be brought back to help these people who need that type of treatment. That is what I was thinking also.
Anonymous

1. oops re: matricide.
2. i am not sticking up for anyone, i am just saying it’s not ‘natural’ to kill your children.
3. i believe in spanking, not murdering your kids.
Anonymous

no, i haven’t seen that. i have seen the runt overpowered by the litter.
Anonymous

of course it happens. i’m just saying it’s not mother nature’s grand plan as the previous commenter seems to imply.
Anonymous

I actually agree with you 100%. If you start correcting your children young enough they don’t usually get as rotten as this man did. And even though you might wonder about that during the teen years, they shape up once they have to pay their own way in life.
Anonymous

It is hard to feel any empathy for such a misfit of society. I think that many parents think they’ve done the best for their children, but were unprepared themselves for the task. Sounds creepy that the woman from Bath dreamed about him… What could she possibly have dreamed that made getting in touch with him a good idea? She sounds like she’s got problems, too….
Anonymous

I agree whole-heartedly…. You have to risk having your kid mad at you once in a while to teach them what is right and wrong with their behavior.
Anonymous

and that was my comment, and my view.

what ever i feel like doing!
gosh!
Napoleon Dyanmite
Anonymous

right?
http://twitter.com/honkeyfacts JANITERPHILE

RIP
Anonymous

Mental illness does NOT mean a lack of conscience. he may or may not have been mentally ill, but from his actions one can see he was NOT a good man & was where he belonged. This has nothing to do with a lack of compassion- I feel plenty of compassion for his victims.
Anonymous

I too am having mixed emotions…I see the list of his crimes and I feel really bad for his victims, but on the other hand, I am feeling that something was obviously not right with this kid in the head, right from a young age…I feel like he should have gotten some help, but what’s done is done, and I hope he can RIP, and his mom can heal.
Anonymous

I said… “YOU may not have been praying for your mother’s pain to end but how do you know NOBODY was praying to God to release her from pain?”

What’s that got to do with how well you know your mother?
Kevin_Of_Bangor

Well there is no god and prayer is only talking to yourself.
Anonymous

Yes you’re straight out of Dickens you are.
Anonymous

I wonder what’s worse? Being an athiest and being damned to eternal ’hell’ or being a Christian and finding out there’s no God.
Anonymous

If I turn you on I’ll fly over the Cuckoos’s nest.
acadiashores

I do believe the Bible instructs us not to judge. It also instructs us to be compassionate and loving. Christianity should not be used as a weapon of intolerance. That is NOT what Christ would want from us.
Anonymous

You hear that because of the statistics. Fatherless children are more likely to have drug and alcohol probems, engage in sexual ativity at an earlier age, be involved in criminal and risky behavior, etc. These are DHHS stats and from psychiatric reports. It isn’t because people don’t think a mother can do the job. It’s damn hard, but they can do it. A father’s job to show his daughter how a woman should be treated and to show his son how to be a man and how to treat a woman. A mother’s job is just the opposite. The facts are that women can’t walk away as easily as a man can. A woman nurtured that child for 9 months in the womb and there is a special bond that a mother and child have. You rarely hear of women walking away leaving their children and husband to fend on their own. That says a lot for a mother. You and countless others do a fine job of raising your children and they grow up to be fantastic members of society. But unfortunately, this isn’t the case with all of them. This post was in no way meant to insult you, so I hope you don’t take it that way. I do hear what you are saying, and I agree. There can be good and bad from both sides.
Lisa Jo Mackenzie

Simple: being a Christian and finding out there is no God because, what has the Christian lost? Nothing! He is in the same boat as the athiest then. But, if the athiest is wrong…enjoy burning in eternal hell!
Lisa Jo Mackenzie

I apologize for sounding crude, but, a 6’7″ man bullied? And his mother praying for his death? Where are his sisters during all this? His mother needs off her Adivan and Prozac. And his new girlfriend needs to get her head examined.
Anonymous

Regardless of what YOU believe in or don’t believe in there are people who pray to God every day. While you may think it’s just randomly”talking to yourself” there is so much more going on that you obviously are missing. These people are expressing their love, hopes and wishes for the person they pray about. Whether or not there is or is not a God is not the point. It doesn’t matter – it is still an expression of love, of caring, kindness and wishes of good will for someone. THAT my friend is never a waste – not to the person who is praying, thinking about or vocalizing hope for another and certainly not for the person who is on the receiving end.

So what’s next on your negative agenda… are you going to tell us that hope has no purpose, that love does not exist, that caring about other people is a waste of time?
Anonymous

ya just flew over the Cuckoos’s nest BD
Anonymous

;)
Anonymous

I don’t know…both sides are pretty strong in their beliefs. I’d think that after all those years of giving up one’s Sunday mornings going to church and living by the Bible, I’d be pretty PO’d to find out it was all a farce. I’m not saying living a good honest life was in vain, but you know what I mean. And if you’ve been a good person but an athiest, any good, loving God will forgive you when you realize your mistake and take you in. I think I’d rather just be good and take my chances.
Anonymous

Actually, that ‘do not judge’ thing is taken out of context by those that have things to hide and want to hide behind something that the Bible doesn’t say unless it is taken out of context. But, yes, Christianity does call for love and compassion. It also requires that one believe in Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and ask forgiveness. Christ wants us all to believe on Him. If we do, everything else will fall in place.

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