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• Anonymous

  You have to be kidding. An out of control student should be left in the classroom, where that student will disrupt the education of students and possibly injure other students, teachers and educational assistants

• Anonymous

       I guess folks in Camden just put kids into stocks in the center of town!

• Mr_Spuddy

  After all, it’s all about YOUR kid’s rights–not the rights of the other 99%.

• Anonymous

  Now that my kids are in school in Bangor, I’ve begun to understand the scope of the rigidity and closed-mindedness that is the school system in Bangor.  It has been a disappointing experience for me to find that the use of force is often required when dealing with the school. It is for that reason that the disability rights center is so important.

• http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXPTPFL746OV2VGR5WBOEUF6W4 Roger

  Once again the liberal laws let one child disrupt all the others. If the child is that much a problem send him/ her home and leave them there until they change.

• Anonymous

  answer to the poll this is like giving them permission to spank your child.if i cant spank them i;ll be damn if they will.

• Anonymous

  please read my comment on restraint, our children are in danger

• Artie_LaGrange

  If any kid is a danger to himself or others, he/she should
  not be in public school! Teachers and Administrators should not have to deal
  with any kid that has serious discipline issues! That is the job of the
  parents. If kids have special needs they should get those needs filled in a
  special needs environment. I do not want an “out of control” kid
  posing a threat to anyone.

  Therefore, this kid needs to be somewhere other than the public school system wasting the time of
  the Staff.

• Anonymous

  No one wants the education of other students disrupted by an out of control child. Not addressed in the article is the mention of least restrictive environment. Once a teacher has tried reasonable modifications to their instructional method in an attempt to provide the education the child by law is entitled to, that teacher may make a referral to have the student evaluated for special education services.

  Once the student qualifies (a declaration of an identified disability) for those services a placement decision is made based on the least restrictive setting where the child in question can gain access to the opportunity to be educated as well as his/her non-disabled peers. If a child warrants an out of school placement the district is required to pay for it. It is not impossible for such a placement to cost 10 times what it costs to educate a non-disabled student.

  If you think about how school budgeting works you can see that it might not be possible to anticipate such an expense and budget for it in advance. Therefore the district may try to avoid the costs. Some of what this article points to may be the district trying to avoid those costs by gambling the family may not challenge their decision to not provide services the child’s diagnosis points to, which may include an out of school placement.

  It is not pretty, no matter how you look at it. A child, not getting an appropriate education, will become a financial burden as an adult. If caught early, many children are able to make an adjustment to adult life and function independently. It would be unfair to blame the parent when the child with a disability may be being underserved in order to save money. 

• Artie_LaGrange

  I find it quite
  troubling that one kid can prevent many kids from learning. In this type of
  situation the needs of the many outweigh the need of the one.

  Remove the chronic
  discipline problems from general education classes and place them in special
  classes, where they belong. The reason they are like this is irrelevant.

• Anonymous

  I appreciate your concern but there are legal guidelines to shape the pathway to removal. A common approach is to hire a dedicated education technician or behavioral health professional (Section 28 — Maine state law) to support the child while remaining with peers.

  Isolation from peers is a heavy cost to pay. remember, it is possible that these children could occupy the same municipality as adults. They will need to learn how to get along as early as possible.

  Did you miss my point that school districts try to avoid costs associated with providing supports? Ed. Techs or BHPs cost money, but are cheaper than more restrictive placements.

• Artie_LaGrange

  I think you misunderstand. I am not referring to off school
  institutions. I would use separate classes and / or expulsion, for real problem
  kids. Certainly if the types of institutions you refer to are needed, those
  individuals should not be in a public forum anyway.

• Anonymous

  Point understood.

  As it happens I work with children in public schools whose Individual Education Plan, a product of a Special Education determination, calls for them to be educated in the classroom. All of the children I work with have been diagnosed with autism and their lack of social awareness and communication skills can and do distract from the learning environment of the whole class, if not supported. 

  The diagnoses mentioned in the article are for other types of disability. Since the 1970′s federal law has mandated that children with disabilities not be isolated from their peers as a matter of course. every effort must be made to make the same educational opportunity available to children with disabilities as non-disabled children.

  My point was that, because of the expense in identifying and implementing what can be expensive remedies, districts may deny or avoid addressing the issue. Unless I misunderstood the article, these children were possibly dealt with inappropriately, perhaps as a way to save money. If federal and state guidelines had been followed, other remedies would have been applied. They were not.

  I have known children who required adult restraint, but it was in a hospital setting, not a public school. The restraint was required due to physical damage and the threat of continued damage, both to people and property. It is difficult to imagine under-supervised or undertrained personnel providing appropriate restraint techniques that do not pose a health risk to the child.

• Artie_LaGrange

  I am not for “unfunded mandates”. I am for better education for all kids!