New Maine law aims to eliminate wolf-dog hybrids

Jim Doughty feeds Koda, who is almost pure wolf, a dog biscuit from his mouth at the Wolf Ledge Refuge and Education Center, located on his property in Bristol in April 2011. Doughty has two wolf hybrids, with hopes of expanding the refuge to house up to 20, but his plan may be halted by an amendment to phase out wolf hybrids.
Jim Doughty feeds Koda, who is almost pure wolf, a dog biscuit from his mouth at the Wolf Ledge Refuge and Education Center, located on his property in Bristol in April 2011. Doughty has two wolf hybrids, with hopes of expanding the refuge to house up to 20, but his plan may be halted by an amendment to phase out wolf hybrids.
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PORTLAND, Maine — Wolf hybrids, animals that are a cross between wolves and dogs, will vanish from Maine over time if a new state law works as designed.

The law prohibits people from acquiring wolf hybrids without a special wildlife-in-captivity permit and it requires current owners to have the animals neutered.

Supporters of the law say wolf hybrids have been responsible for numerous brutal attacks around the country, particularly against children. Wolf hybrids are predatory and should be in the wild, said state Sen. David Trahan, R-Waldoboro, who sponsored the bill that outlaws them.

“Wolf hybrids are not pets,” he said. “Would people consider bringing a coyote or mountain lion into their home crossed with another cat or another dog?”

Jim Doughty, who operates a wolf hybrid refuge in Bristol that is not affected by the law because it already is licensed by the state, said people who want the animals will skirt the law by licensing them as shepherd or husky mixes rather than wolf hybrids. The law is misguided and unfairly brands the animals, said Doughty, who keeps four wolf hybrids at the Wolf Ledge Refuge.

“Any animal, no matter whether it’s a pure wolf or a Chihuahua or a pug or anything else, depends on the person and how they raise it,” he said. “It’s the same thing with your kids. If you’re abusive toward your kids, they’re not going to be so good. If you work with them, they’ll be great.”

Maine legislators last spring passed emergency legislation aimed at getting rid of wolf hybrids, which also are known as wolf dogs or wolf-dog hybrids. Trahan introduced the legislation after people in his district raised concerns about Doughty’s wolf hybrid refuge, which he opened last year and is licensed to have up to 20 of the animals.

Wolf hybrids have been responsible for at least 84 attacks that have maimed or killed people in the past three decades, said Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, an animal protection newspaper based in Washington state. Of those attacks, 69 involved children and 19 resulted in deaths.

Clifton, who has tracked dog attacks nationally for decades, said that’s a huge number considering wolf dogs make up only an estimated 1/100th of 1 percent of all dogs in the U.S.

Under Maine’s law, people are prohibited from acquiring wolf dogs unless they have a permit issued by the Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife to possess wildlife in captivity.

The Department of Agriculture is charged with compiling a list of wolf hybrid owners from towns where the animals are licensed. When people license their animals, they have to provide a record of a rabies vaccination, which must include the breed of animal and be signed by a veterinarian.

Nobody is sure how many wolf hybrids are in Maine, but state officials should get an idea soon when it starts compiling the list of owners.

“I expect that list will be at its highest this winter, and if people follow the law it will slowly start to decline,” said Don Hoenig, Maine’s state veterinarian.

Maine joins a growing number of states that have passed laws banning the animals. Forty states effectively forbid the ownership, breeding and importation of wolf dogs, while others impose some form of regulation upon ownership, according to the Illinois-based National Wolfdog Alliance.

Beth Duman, who has studied wolves for nearly 40 years and testified last spring on Maine’s law, said the number of wolf hybrids in her home state of Michigan has dwindled to nearly nothing since the state passed a law prohibiting them about a decade ago, she said. Duman is a wolf educator who has written a book about wolves and wolf hybrids in the Great Lakes region.

“We have no more hybrids advertised,” she said. “They’re not coming into the pounds. It’s a made a big difference.”

In Maine, the controversy continues in Bristol over Doughty’s refuge, where he takes in wolf hybrids from people who don’t want or can’t take care of them. Last month, one of Doughty’s animals, Luna, showed up in a neighbor’s back yard after running off when somebody inadvertently left Doughty’s front door open.

“I heard my chickens going crazy and I looked out and it was attacking one of my chickens, shaking it, feather flying everywhere,” said Stacey Simmons, who helped organize a petition last year trying to prevent the refuge from opening.

Simmons came out on her back deck, screamed at the animal, threw a rug at it and grabbed her golden retriever and put it inside. Luna wasn’t fazed by anything and eventually retreated to the woods with the chicken in her mouth, Simmons said. The chicken — bloodied and distraught — reappeared the next day.

But the episode shows that wolf hybrids have no business being in a neighborhood, she said.

“What’s going to be next? A kid being attacked?” she said.

Doughty doesn’t consider wolf hybrids to be dangerous, although he said he wouldn’t recommend them for people with small children or who don’t have the space to let the animals run.

And he doesn’t think the law will eliminate wolf dogs from Maine.

“Owners are going to list it as another dog,” he said. “The vet might know it and everybody else might know it, but nobody’s going to say a word.”

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  • Anonymous

    Cannot agree with this. There are many breeds that attack people and other animals, none is immune. I bet more chihuahuas bite people than hybrids. I owned a hybrid. He was a bigger baby than my husky and my malamute. Are we going to ban huskies too? My husky will kill any small animal that wanders into her yard. Is this wrong? No. I may not like it, but it is the nature of ALL canines…maybe we should ban cats? They scratch and bite too, and kill other smaller animals, even rabbits. How many people were attacked by a german sheppard this year? Look at the stats, they attack more people than pit bulls do. THE PERSON owning the animal and raising it most often makes it what it is when it comes to their own territory. Perhaps there are those that need to be approached differently. No different than any dpg, pure breed or not. Just like people, they are all different and it has nothing to do with the breed. I am pretty tired of the government, local or not, telling me what is best for me. I am an adult. I can make up my own mind based on my own experiences…seatbelts? helmets? air bags? canine hybrids? what’s next? Let’s try writing stories about how many there are that DO NOT bite anyone. Bet it outweighs those that do.

  • Anonymous

    Almost ALL household pets are domesticated wildlife, where the heck do you think they came from?? People need to stop blaming animals for wrong doings the owner could have forseen. It used to be German Shepards, then Rotweilers, then Dobermans, now its Pit Bulls. Time to start blaming the owners. If you know your animal has a violent tendancy towards other people or children, then keep them away, its the owners responsibility

  • Anonymous

    84 attacks in 30 years doesn’t  seem too bad. Until you look at the fact that these animals make up 1/100th of 1 percent of all dogs in the U.S…. Then it looks bad… If you do the Math.

  • Anonymous

    This is not a free country.
    There must be limits on dangerous animals.
    What next , pet Tarantulas and Black Widow spiders  ??

  • Anonymous

    If you REALLY want to use the math for an excuse, then  try doing the REAL math: 30 years times 365 days is 10,950 days minus 84 attacks is 10,866 days that a documented attack did NOT occur, compared to the 84 days that one did. If you want to go even further, try how many seconds….. and then ask yourself how many of these animals are there and subtract the documented number of animals that attacked from that number to find out how many have NOT attacked. The 1/100th doesnt mean a thing and really has nothing to do with the intent of the article, except that by NOT mentioning how many did NOT occur, they are trying to put a negative spin to pass a non sensical law.   OR, let’s do the math on the HUMAN species, how many attacks in a year by humans? Oh wait, that doesnt count since WE are the dominant species, no one can outlaw us humans…..

  • Thomas Palmer

    cows are more dangerous than dogs

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KJEUWEYRHIPWV3PTTWWNUZ2CTQ mcmaineacjam

    I knew someone with a pet tarantula, and I  “dared” to hold it,  though it was gross, but harmless. My mother had a tiny jack russell terrier like the “Frazier”  dog and when a neighbor’s dog off its leash came up to us on a walk, my mother’s dog latched on to the other ones snout and would not let go. Both the other dog’s owner and I tried to pry the mouth open, but it did not work and she did not release until she was good and ready. I would not trust that dog around chickens. Any dog can attack,
     Also, the chicken appeared the next day. The dog did not eat it or kill it. Sounds like a dog getting a little rough in its play. I do  not see reason to ban a breed here.

  • Anonymous

    Leave the dogs alone there only mad because someone has made them that way. Don’t this state have other items to do besides this. Small dogs attack children more than these dogs come on Augusta put our money to better use please.

  • Anonymous

    What an ignorant law, made by ignorant people. I wonder how many of these so call lawmakers have actually seen a wolf hybrid.

    It is a pity that a few can force a majority to kneel to their demands.

  • Anonymous

    My brother had a Jack Russell Terrier.
    What a perfectly awful beast.
    I prefer Boston Terriers.
    Smart, affectionate and clean.
    Also pure bred German Sheppards.
    I have rescued 3 and all were remarkable animals.
    When we had our farm  our Black Lab, Lady, went across the road and killed 23 of the neighbors hens.
    We heard a shotgun blast and she came crawling back with her guts shot out.
    We apologized to our neighbor for the terror and destruction she caused.
    And payed for the hens.
    She had  never bothered our hens or rabbits. 

  • Anonymous

    You are absolutely right snady, hybrid animals are almost always much less high strung. One neighbor outfitted himself for the swamps of South Korea to trim the hedges between his yard and ours. He made the mistake of coming into our yard on our side of the property to do it. The half Black Lab Half Wolf bounded after him the second he started the trimmer. One bounce and she was on the front steps, the next bounce put her 100 feet more within 8 inches of his keester, on command she immediately aborter her plan without complaint. I yelled, “NO” and her name. She stopped way before bumping into him. She was under, “mental restraint”. This is a mix that should be protected because we need good dogs. 

  • Anonymous

    Pit bulls have a worse record of attacks than wolf dogs, does this mean that pit bulls will be banned soon as well?

  • Anonymous

    In reply to Ewersmith: No, most of the representatives do not even know how a cat is neutered.
    One told me they lace them up in a boot. Honest. Glad to see there are educated people on this forum for a change. Call your reps and tell them this bill “ought not to pass”

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!!! We are all being conquered with the help of our Military High Command and our elected officials. I personally have no plan to let them screw with me or my family. But you might all want to explore all that for yourselves and your own families and friends.

  • Anonymous

    So true! Cows are flatulent! I’m a big boy. I’m over 6 feet and a good bit of my life has put me outside of the way the world works for Humans. I was trying to turn a veal in the birth canal when another cow attacked me. I punched her in the nose and she sat down and bawled. At the time I felt bad, and honestly I had returned headbutts to other cows, that’s how they screw with eachother’s head.

  • Anonymous

    I would much rather see my tax dollars be put to better use…like…how about using my tax dollars to introduce a law that puts a cap on the amount that we can be charged for gas….or….how about using those tax dollars to make a law against companies that overcharge for necessary services like medical care or heating oil, or to fight the medical insurance companies from taking away patient rights to premium care….but alas, we must instead unwillingly give our tax dollars to make ignorant laws against animals…

  • Anonymous

    This is absolutely ridiculous…. Can we also sterilize drug addicts, criminals, and abusers to be sure they do not copulate with the general public and create more druggies, criminals, and abusers? people are way more dangerous than these animals. MANY, MANY breeds would gladly chase and attack a chicken, thats what animals do. Cats included! Do we ban all breeds of cats because they kill birds, squirrels, and sometimes rabbits? These people need to find a real issue to address that actually impacts people in the general population. What a massive waste of ones time working on something like this. Do you not have any family to spend your free time with? Paint to watch dry?

  • Anonymous

    You know there are a lot of different types of dogs that would kill chickens, that seems like an over reaction on her part.  Put some other dogs in her yard with the chickens and see what happens.  I’ve seen a bird dog grab a pheasant and bird dogs get training not to that.  I think it shows that the owner has a lot to do with a dogs demeanor and in the case of a wolf hybrid it is no different.  The right owner for the right dog.  That isn’t to say that in some cases a dog is just a bad dog, but 95% of the time the owner can make all the difference.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry you let your retardded neighbors treat you that way and murder your dog. Probably coyotes and foxes got their chickens. Too bad they didn’t get your neighbors.

  • Anonymous

    Our dog had their chicken feathers sticking out of her mouth.
    I would do the same for them.
    They were good neighbors.

  • Anonymous

    Am I reading this right, the chicken lived??? When a fox comes after my chickens there is always one dead, he wouldn’t make a move unless he had figured out a way to get one.

    My large house/barn cat can scare a chicken to death, not to mention torture and kill mice, birds, squirrels, and chipmunks. The thing with these lawmakers is this; if they vote against a bill like this and SOMEHOW someone in their district dies or gets mauled by a wolf/dog hybrid, now they are voted out for simply siding with individual liberties.

    I don’t follow the logic of singling out one species of dog over another. What dogs are going be left after these fascist safety nuts have their way? When humans were living in caves and small encampments it was often their dogs who would sound the first alarm of potentially threatening people/animals approaching. Dogs only exist because humans domesticated and bred wolves for different specialties over time. The same people sending money to save the endangered snow leopard, an animal that would eat their face off, are the ones pushing this stupid bill and thousands of others like it all over this country. Individual people are responsible for the actions of their pets, that is the law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611091543 Nicole Thomas

    You would shoot someone’s dog in the stomach for behaving like the animal it was? It wasn’t your dog’s fault that it went out harassing and eating animals. It was your fault for not keeping it home behind a fence or on a run. Sick world someone causes a slow and painful death for your pet and you justify it because they were good neighbors.

  • Anonymous

    Well said Nicole.

  • Anonymous

    We can only hope!

  • Anonymous

     I totally agree with you, I have a German Shepard and chickens….She would play with the chicken until it didn’t play anymore….and then go find another one. We did break her of this, but thats what dogs do! There is certainly no reason to ban the dog.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4L63GCXJWMMCZUDDAVEFLEQLRI matt

    the time line of a dog started with a wolf. Say good bye to Lassie

  • Moose

    I guess Quimby will be ban from the State of Maine for good.

  • Anonymous

    You are right,mam.
    It would have been better for the dog to die quickly like 19 of the hens.
    The other 4 hens were shredded by our dog but didnt have the luxury to die quickly.
    Cruel world indeed.
    I am now a Vegan.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZVOZU6JNL5ZDZW3VNASGTCCTY Clyde Grant

    Nurture and  Nature both play a role in all. 

  • acadiawoods

    I see no point in breeding wolves and dogs to produce a pet however, I see less point in all the work and energy expended to create another piece of legislation.  The aim of the legislation is flawed and unenforceable.  Most owners of hybrids will register them as husky or malamute mixes.

  • Anonymous

    What breed is she LOL?

  • Anonymous

    I bet that eagles kill a lot more chickens than dogs do.

  • Moose

    She would be a cross between jacka*s and bull frog. Which would make her dam ugly..

  • Anonymous

    So, when is the law going to apply to pitbulls, dobermans, rhodesian ridge backs, and whole group of other dogs just as dangerous?  Seems like another that another law that is difficult and expensive  to me.   Just what we need when all public services are being stretched to the limit with budget cuts.

    All of the dogs I mentioned above were initially bred for their fierce personalities.

  • Anonymous

    Dogs were domesticated centuries ago, but even after all this time, there are still certain traits that they all have in common.  I’m not saying that aggressive behavior is one of those traits, but just saying that not everything can be “bred out” of them.  Plus, not all dog owners are good trainers.  I really can’t see laying the blame on any one particular breed.  If you love dogs, get your dog trained and socialized properly.  Dogs can be a lot more fun than humans sometimes so be a responsible pet owner and do the best you can to help them fit into a human society.

  • Anonymous

    I guess they need to consider a law for Pitbulls also then.  How many attacks have you read about with them.  Many!

  • Anonymous

    We have backyard chickens and beagles, shepherds and other breeds have attacked them.  It is not soley on the owner and how they’re treated, they’re canines and canines have instincts to attack.  If you’re going to ban the the wolf hybrids, band the rotweillers, pit bulls and chows which happen to attack likely more than wolf hybrids.  They’re DOGS people, they will often act like dogs.  You cannot train instinct out of them. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the gov is concerned with your safety if you keep a pet like this, they’re concerned about the safety of small children or others who come into contact with your dog.  I agree that it’s part the owner, but not soley.   People forget that animals have instincts and in the right situation, they take over. It’s just that a smaller dog can be controlled more swiftly and quickly.

  • Anonymous

    mental restraint;  what a joke.  if you hadn’t been there the dog would have attacked him.  geez . . . 

  • Anonymous

    maybe the man should not have come into someone else’s yard without permission…the man still would have been at fault, he didnt belong there. The animal was protecting her territory and family.

  • Anonymous

    you are right, they are NOT concerned with my safety…I agree. If they were they wouldnt make it mandatory for a 5 foot woman to wear seatbelts and have air bags installed in all vehicles when I cannot control whether they are on or not. Air bags kill people my height. However, put the blame where it belongs. The animal is not at fault. However, if we follow your logic, then ALL dogs would be banned. See my comment regarding numbers further down the page. There are MANY breeds of dogs who actually attack and bite more people every year than this one and the ONLY number that is true and relevant is the number of attacks, NOT compared to the percentage of dogs. 
     

  • Anonymous

    there…you said the right thing. “they’re DOGS people, they will often act like dogs.”

  • Anonymous

    You are a Vegan because a dog killed a chicken, and a human killed a dog? Just want to understand.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the ones who want to whine about this law have never had any experiences with these beautiful animals. My buddy Mark W. showed up with one about 10 years ago. Beautiful dog, and I wondered if it really had wolf in it or if he was just saying so. But after seeing the dog track small animals and kids, it was plain there was more than dog in those genes. After several lunges at small children, the “dog” disappeared. Don’t really know what he did with it, I’ll have to ask him next time we meet. All I know is that if you were at something like a picnic, Mark had to stay in almost physical contact with the dog. The dog tracked little kids (less than about 13), very interested in their movement.

    The law doesn’t affect me one way or the other, but any wild animal needs to be controlled closely. The ones who screw up do so for the ones who are responsible owners too. 

  • Anonymous

    Great way to look at the world! You also have to ask why everybody is so interested in the fact that unemployment is 9.1%. Why can’t they focus on the fact that 90.9% of the people have jobs!

    Central Park in NYC is a very safe place. 99% of the people who go through there are not killed!  Most women who fall asleep drunk at a frat party are not raped. Why are parents so focused on telling their kids it is not ok to drink and drive? Most drunks make it home all right. Etc. etc.

    The fact that you would wait until there are dog bites every day before you acted says more about you than about the dogs.

     

  • Anonymous

    “Oh look Megan, a doggy…..go pat the doggy….give him a kiss….aw isn’t that cute…..I want a picture…..awwwww. Why not ban stupid parents also? I owned a 2nd generaton hybrid and it was the most kindest and gentlist animal I’ve ever had. She loved kids. Had a little girl stick her finger up her nose and she never moved. And yes, We took the kid away and said that was not nice to do. What dogs are next? Pitbulls? Dobermans? German Shepherds?

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHA thats pretty sad. People are not trying to outlaw central park, and central park is not a breathing life. I don’t agree with frat parties, drinking, or rape, but why did the woman fall asleep? why did she get drunk? Not saying it’s right, but she does have SOME responsibility over her own actions. OH! And guess what….I am a woman. And not only that, but I would be in your statistics minority too. Yet I still feel that I have to own my actions that contributed to an unlawful, indecent act. Not saying those people shouldnt be punished or that is right, it isnt, but I am saying that perhaps my decisions had something to do with putting me in that position. There. That should make a few people upset, but hey, at least I am owning my responsibility in my actions. Unlike you, who would rather impose your wants on others and take away their right to make their own decisions and own those decisions. Let’s get real here….we are talking about banning a living breathing animal, and imposing our own personal desires on others. If I follow your line of reasoning, we should ban humans. They kill, maim, and intentionally hurt more people than any other in existence. Yeah, you said it, not me, except, let’s insert the word humans in there….”The fact that you would wait until there are human bites every day before you actedsays more about you than the dogs.” Oh? not so funny now is it? Let’s take that one step further and say it is not the dog’s fault. It is the human’s fault for owning and not controlling their animal. Let’s place the responsibility where it belongs. Kinda like owning a handgun…not the gun’s fault, it’s the person pulling the trigger.

  • Anonymous

    And then it will be Rotties, GSDs, Dobermans, etc…

  • Anonymous

    And then it will be Rotties, GSDs, Dobermans, etc…
    Where does it stop?

  • Anonymous

    Actually, it is only the percentage that matters.  Otherwise it’s apples to oranges.

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    Sorry to everyone that believes that nurture has a greater affect on wild animal behavior than nature, it is simply not the case. Wolves, hybrid or not, are predatory.

    Domestic animals may have ancestors that had this same behavior but claiming that a domestic  Labrador Retriever has the same predatory instincts of its ancestors is the same as claiming people are not responsible for their actions because we are the same animals as our hunter/gatherer ancestors. Abused animals will attack because they have been conditioned to, Nurture. Wild animals attack because it is in their Nature to do so. Every type of predacious animal that has been conditioned against predation has turn against their handlers and those around them. Considering that a wolf-hybrid  will kill something somewhere in its lifetime it is unreasonable to blindly hope that what they kill is not a child… This is why our Government has gotten so large, why we have to have laws that anyone can see is a matter of common sense. If you really want smaller Government, all it takes is some personal responsibility. No person that owns, breeds, or trades in these animals is showing that they take any personal responsibly for their actions and therefor another common sense laws is required to force people to do the right thing. Animals killing their trainers:http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/25/nation/la-na-seaworld-death25-2010feb25http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local&id=6097429http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-04-14-animal-attack-charticle_N.htm

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    Sorry… since 1982 Chows have kill’d 7 people… Your wolf hybrids: 19

    Take into account that wolf-hybrids represent less than 0.003% if you normalize thier population they would have kill more than 101 people if they had the same numbers has chows… check your facts please!

    http://www.lawyerfordogbite.com/dangerous-dogs/wolf-hybrids-fatal-attack-and-bite-statistics.html

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    Truly, Mr. Doughty ought to welcome this legislation. 

    His stated purpose is to provide a home (refuge) for those animals that people can’t handle. Well, if they can’t handle them, there would be no need for a refuge, right?

    I’m calling BS on this. He wants these hybrids because he likes having them, otherwise, he’d welcome anything that would put him out of business by preventing the breeding of wolves and dogs.

  • Anonymous

    David Trahan has no clue; he has never owned one and is driven by sensationalistic paranoia.

    The fact is that wolf attacks are a lot less than Pitbull Rottweilers, and Dobermans.

    I have and intend to keep them..!

    Unlike Trahan my “direct history” has shown that
    *the vaccines do work-
    *they are very family oriented, even with children and cats-
    *domesticated from birth, do not attack, unless they are trained to-

    I am a conservative voter, I have a constant one-on-one companionship with my dog, and if anything interrupts that cycle I promise that I will aggressively lobby against anyone that co-signs this bill.

    Trahan may not be looking for a future political career, but anyone that signs this, regardless of party, will become part of my daily focus.

    Trahan needs to get his head out of fairytales and get out of politics…!   
     

    .

  • Anonymous

    Do you own one, have ever owned one….?
    I trust my safety and the safety my family on my dog, a lot more than I do than “anyone” in Augusta

    .

  • Anonymous

    Michael, you can quote away, but unless you have actually have owned them and can tell me of your personal first-hand experience,,,, your doing nothing more than fanning the uneducated flames in this retarded witch hunt.

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    I think you misunderstood my post. It was directed at Doughty’s intentions. 

    I do not own one, and have no plans to ever own one. Someone that has a wolf/dog hybrid is just looking to show how “big and bad” they are. In most cases, anyway. And then they can’t handle the animal, because their intent was wrong. Just like those that own pit bulls for “street status.”

    FYI, I live near to the Wolf Ledge Refuge. I am glad that the wolf/dogs have a place to live out their lives. But the sad fact remains that these animals should never have been bred, as so many of them do end up in places like these. Just like so many pit bulls end up in shelters.

    Therefore, Mr. Doughty ought to want this legislation to pass. 

  • Anonymous

    Like you, I have a real problem with Trahan’s witch hunt

  • Anonymous

    Its friggen phobic madness-
    These are nothing more than frightened cowards that have no clue of owning a wolf.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you

  • Anonymous

    Why do you want to give wolfs a bad name

  • Anonymous

    Thank you

  • Anonymous

    Thank You…!

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Lets ban Trahan

  • Anonymous

    I have owned wolfs a good part of my life, and I intend to keep on doing so

  • Anonymous

    Amen

  • Anonymous

    Well said

  • Anonymous

    Ive owned one…and I will again some day if it just happens that I see one that likes me as much as I like him/her. Just like Ive also owned a husky, and a doberman, and a mutt…..It isnt the breed that kills, its the animal. Either it will or it won’t. REGARDLESS of whether its a hybrid, a rotweiler, a doberman, a pit bull, a beagle, a snake, a tarantula, or whatever. If you really wanted to talk about what is wrong with the government, don’t blame it on making these types of laws, they do it because someone like you wants them to do it. Look for root cause before you speak. The root cause of a hybrid injuring someone is not because they can….its because someone hurt him, he thinks someone is GOING to hurt him or his family, someone abused him, or maybe someone frightened him. Someone mistreated him somewhere along the way..someone……a human. Humans are the root cause. Not the animal.

  • Anonymous

    What’s your hate for wolfs, were you bitten by one..?

  • Anonymous

    Phobic madness…couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • EB

    I agree, it’s all about how you raise them and manage taking
    care of them. Might as well ban people too because as Doughty says, not
    everyone raises them properly either. Let’s put it this way, I bet the facts
    are in favor of more people killing people than other animals killing people. We are
    an endangerment to ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    I am sorry if I misread your last post. Your assertion that people just want large dogs to show them off is a bit generalized, and really doesn’t fit with my wolf. I have and will always keep a wolf as a companion, no matter what Trahan attempts to do…!

  • Anonymous

    Can I see the same stats for german sheppards please? Im sure you can do it, you pulled a figure for hybrids, while you are at it, how about other breeds, perhaps you should use attacks rather than kills…

  • Moose

    She is two feet lower then whales  sh*t..

  • Anonymous

    I like that…
    Did you hear that Quimby is now describing Mainers as old fat farts….
    Its in another BDN article from today….

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    Sure:  Attacks as you requested: 
    German Shepard - 79 attacks that cause “bodily harm” 
    Wolf Hybrid – 82

    Normalizing the population difference between the breeds (same # of Wolf hybrid as Shepards) would equate into almost 500 “attack” by your wolf hybrids.
     

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    If I scare a tarantula it can’t kill me… and naming the most dangerous animals you can think of as proof that all animals can be dangerous (minus the beagle of course) is redundant.  If you ever do get another “wolf” that likes you I hope that you are willing to accept the consequences if it harms another person. But perhaps you will blame the innocent saying that they shouldn’t have scared your precious wolfy.  

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    Pits have 1500+ “attacks” while Wolf Hybrids have about 1100 (assuming equal pop)… you make a valid point perhaps Pits are too dangerous to keep as pets…

    However look who these animals are attacking. 

    Pits about 56% children (looks like an even split)
    -Adults 529 Children 691 

    Wolf Hybrid about 94% children
    -Adults 4 Children 68

    This says to me one attack is based on chance 50/50 while the other shows an animal the prefers to attack something smaller and more vulnerable. I would gather from this that while the Pit fights because it has been bred to do so… the wolf hybrid is acting like every single predator on the planet, taking out the weakest and easiest Prey it can find.

  • Anonymous

    Humans as a population are NOT innocent. If someone is in my yard, regardless of what type of animal I own, you can bet that my animal will be under control. Under control means in the house in a closed room away from my company, or in the back yard on a chain away from my company. Because I am a responsible pet owner. Which has been my point all along. So, thank you, for pointing that out. OH! There are poisonous tarantulas you know so yes, it could. And if my dog is on a chain in my back yard, and someone enters my yard uninvited, and walks into the area of my dog, and my dog DOES attack or bite them, its their own damn fault. Would I feel bad for that person? You bet. But they would have only themselves to blame for their stupid actions. And it has nothing to do with what breed they animal is. ALL breeds can, might, and do bite and attack. My point is and has always been throughout these articles that a human is to blame regardless of what breed. Outlawing a breed does nothing to control the humans who are irresponsible enough to let their animal inflict harm to someone. You, Mr. Barrett, would like to think you are well versed, but apparently not enough of a responsible person to own your own actions if you feel that a hybrid or any other dog breed endangers anyone. The owner endangers, not the animal. The animal is an animal, doing what animals do.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right. If he’d just told us what he was going to do we would have made sure the wolf-dog knew it was OK. She’s not stupid. And she wouldn’t have done anything besides actively remain between him and us as she always did with anybody she didn’t know well and when we are asleep.

  • Anonymous

    At no point in the article did I see any reference to the total numbers for all breeds over that same time period.    I would be curious to see how this 1/100th of one percent of dogs compared to the other 99.9 percent.  Not for or against, but I’d think if someone is going to quote statistics compare it to some quantity.  This is like saying that over the last 30 years Dodge Omni’s which make up 1/100 of 1% of all cars which is an awful lot compared to ……?

  • http://michigal.net Sue

    As before, I mentioned it’s in most cases. Not all by any means.

    And I don’t blame Trahan too much in this, he’s merely responding to some of his constituents.  Oh, and to the town manager, Kristin Poland,  who is very much against them also. His constituents and Kristin, however, need to get out of their panic mode. I might not live precisely next door to Wolf Ledge, but I am near enough that any escapee could easily make their way to my property. And I’m not too worried about it. Depending on the amount of wolf percentage, I’d expect them to be shyer and more wary of us. It’s the dog part in them that worries me more. ;-)

  • Moose

    If everyone would stop buying Burt’s Bee products and stick up a*s she was the owner of that company. She uglyer then a hole bag of dirty a*sholes

  • http://twitter.com/bangordad Michael Barrett

    So we should ban the humans… as you say we are the ones that are the real problem…

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Wolves and domestic dogs are the same species; any distinction drawn between one and the other is a social one, not one with a basis in biology.  (That may seem strange when you’re considering pictures of a wild wolf and a pug, but it is in fact the case – and really, it’s no stranger than the distinction between that same pug and, say, a Great Dane.  They’re the same species too.)  As such, I’m not entirely clear on how this proposed law is even supposed to work.  It’s a bit like those “assault weapons” bans that are entirely designed around what the rifles in question look like rather than how they function.

  • Anonymous

    I am not a dog lover and I have respect for those who are, “However” Based on
    the attacks by pit-bulls on children and other humans,  Maine would do well to concentrate on the elimination
    of the pitt-bull in the state of Maine…Not only Maine but other states as
    well, but that should be left up to the other states…

  • Anonymous

    I dont worry about the dog aspect, mine have none

  • Anonymous

    You got that right

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