Canadian folk singers charged with illegal entry across Calais border

Posted July 07, 2011, at 1:18 p.m.
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BANGOR, Maine — How much of her North American tour Canadian folk singer Michelle Joly will miss is up to a federal judge.

Michelle Marie Bahrynowski, whose professional moniker is Michelle Joly, and her backup singer Carrie Anne Sadler, both of Red Deer, Alberta, were arrested Tuesday morning at the Milltown border crossing in Calais after they allegedly lied to Customs and Border Protection agents about why they were entering the country.

Bahrynowski, 30, and Sadler, 32, were charged with entry into the United States by false representation. The duo are scheduled to appear before U.S. Magistrate Judge Margaret Kravchuck for a bail hearing Friday morning in federal court.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Gail Malone has asked that the two be held without bail until their case is concluded.

The performers came to the attention of authorities about 2 a.m. Tuesday when they attempted to enter Maine at the Ferry Point border crossing in Calais, according to the affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Bangor.

Board patrol agents turned Bahrynowski and Sadler back because they did not have an H visa, as a needed worker, or a P visa, as a performer.

They also had more than 400 CDs along with T-shirts, tote bags and other merchandise, according to the affidavit. Agents told the women they could not import CDs for sale in the U.S. without declaring the items through a customs broker. Both were allowed to leave the border crossing station for Canada without being charged.

About 30 hours later, Bahrynowski and Sadler tried to enter the U.S. at the Milltown border crossing in Calais, according to the affidavit. There, the women told agents they were entering the U.S. not to work but to visit friends.

In searching Bahrynowski’s cellphone, agents discovered that the singer had posted a message to her Facebook page asking for friends in the U.S. to say she was coming to visit them, according to the affidavit. The Customs and Border Protection office in Calais received a fax from a Taunton, Mass., man claiming that Bahrynowski was coming to visit him and another fax from an Albany, N.Y., man who said she was scheduled to sing at his pub but would not be paid for her performance.

In searching the van, agents found more than 200 CDs hidden in recesses in the vehicle’s interior, the affidavit said.

Bahrynowski’s website states that she has been on tour since the release of her first album on June 1. Her U.S. dates are not listed, but she allegedly told border patrol agents that she was scheduled to work in New York, Illinois and Minnesota. The singer’s last performance in Canada was scheduled for June 29 at the Rose and Thistle Pub in St. John’s, Newfoundland, according to information on her website. Her next performance is scheduled for July 19 at the Plaza in Kenora, Ontario.

If convicted, the women face up to six months in federal prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

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  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    Well, there’s a clear threat to the security and economic integrity of the United States dealt with.

  • Anonymous

    Musta figured the performance was gonna “BOMB”

  • Anonymous

    Musta figured the performance was gonna “BOMB”

  • Anonymous

    Getting the proper paperwork isn’t exactly difficult people. Especially for canadians…

    Follow the freaking law.

  • Anonymous

    Thank the stars above. The Goobermant has stopped another terrorist.  Lets stop harassing people and  see if we can’t be serious about stopping real threats to our safety. I know that is asking a lot but, what harm are these two going to do?  Is her  Canadian voice going too harm the eardrums of  the American listeners?  Come on, be for real. I know, I know, just doing their job.

  • Olde Hippie

    This has been a serious problem for Canadian performers on the festival circuit for several years. These performance visas have become difficult and expensive since 9/11. It has crippled the careers of many folk and jazz performers. Rock groups too, especially indies. Musicians have been working with US and Canadian legal people for years to modify this as it is hurting business through the US festival circuit, which attracts millions of people ($$$) every year for some good people just trying to make a living. It’s getting so that only the big stars have the fame and money to get through the regulations. I’m glad this story has come to the attention of the mainstream press.

  • Olde Hippie

    This has been a serious problem for Canadian performers on the festival circuit for several years. These performance visas have become difficult and expensive since 9/11. It has crippled the careers of many folk and jazz performers. Rock groups too, especially indies. Musicians have been working with US and Canadian legal people for years to modify this as it is hurting business through the US festival circuit, which attracts millions of people ($$$) every year for some good people just trying to make a living. It’s getting so that only the big stars have the fame and money to get through the regulations. I’m glad this story has come to the attention of the mainstream press.

  • Olde Hippie

    This has been a serious problem for Canadian performers on the festival circuit for several years. These performance visas have become difficult and expensive since 9/11. It has crippled the careers of many folk and jazz performers. Rock groups too, especially indies. Musicians have been working with US and Canadian legal people for years to modify this as it is hurting business through the US festival circuit, which attracts millions of people ($$$) every year for some good people just trying to make a living. It’s getting so that only the big stars have the fame and money to get through the regulations. I’m glad this story has come to the attention of the mainstream press.

  • Olde Hippie

    This has been a serious problem for Canadian performers on the festival circuit for several years. These performance visas have become difficult and expensive since 9/11. It has crippled the careers of many folk and jazz performers. Rock groups too, especially indies. Musicians have been working with US and Canadian legal people for years to modify this as it is hurting business through the US festival circuit, which attracts millions of people ($$$) every year for some good people just trying to make a living. It’s getting so that only the big stars have the fame and money to get through the regulations. I’m glad this story has come to the attention of the mainstream press.

  • Anonymous

    Are they really ‘performing’ if no one likes it?

  • Anonymous

    Ever try to travel to Canada to get work. The answer will be a big fat NO. Now get out of our Country. Canadians can with easy to get permission, work in America.

  • Anonymous

    Again, its easy to get the permission. Most just simply do not want to follow the rules.
    In the Border towns, Canadians can take American jobs without difficulty. Check out how many Canadians work in the hospitals, stores etc. American business owners would rather hire Canadians because they don’t have to pay benifits. So much for dedicated business owners. Americans should have the same benifits as Canadians.

  • Anonymous

    Again, its easy to get the permission. Most just simply do not want to follow the rules.
    In the Border towns, Canadians can take American jobs without difficulty. Check out how many Canadians work in the hospitals, stores etc. American business owners would rather hire Canadians because they don’t have to pay benifits. So much for dedicated business owners. Americans should have the same benifits as Canadians.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Maine, Not Open for Canadian Business. 

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Maine, Not Open for Canadian Business. 

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to Maine, Not Open for Canadian Business. 

  • Anonymous

    The State of Maine has nothing to do with U.S. Customs, good try though!

  • acadiawoods

    Dumb move and dumber move.  Even a rank beginning ICE agent could have busted these two brain trusts.

  • Anonymous

    Stay and work in Oh Canada….NOT U.S.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    Good keep ‘em locked up, the last thing we need are Canadian Folk singers mucking about. We don’t need your kind here. Their first offense was no big deal, “Get a permit and come back”, their second offense however was much more serious. They lied, conspired and hid contraband in their vehicle. They should have the book thrown at them…. Now if they were Hispanic , were heavily pregnant and were  hauling illegal drugs they would of been waved right through, been given pamphlets as to where to apply for welfare and housing and foodstamps and of course their nearest polling place so they could vote themselves more free stuff.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Long/1499408399 Jack Long

    Who cares, try getting in to Canada to work there,  it’s even harder to get anything done through the Canadian gov’t,  being a socialized country and all.

  • http://twitter.com/fakelepage Fake Paul LePage

    I say if they stand just inside Canada, we’ll be able to hear them almost as good as if they were on the U.S. side.

  • Anonymous

    This government allows theft by the trillions by the banksters and corporations but won’t let two folk singers in to perform and possibly csell 5 or 6 CDs a night?  This makes no sense.  What is America becoming?  Or, are we already there?  TSA agents make granny take off her depends to make sure she’s not toten’ any dynomite in there and we hassle two people just trying to make living and LIVE a living, by being with friends, by making more friends.  This is plain ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    This government allows theft by the trillions by the banksters and corporations but won’t let two folk singers in to perform and possibly csell 5 or 6 CDs a night?  This makes no sense.  What is America becoming?  Or, are we already there?  TSA agents make granny take off her depends to make sure she’s not toten’ any dynomite in there and we hassle two people just trying to make living and LIVE a living, by being with friends, by making more friends.  This is plain ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    This government allows theft by the trillions by the banksters and corporations but won’t let two folk singers in to perform and possibly csell 5 or 6 CDs a night?  This makes no sense.  What is America becoming?  Or, are we already there?  TSA agents make granny take off her depends to make sure she’s not toten’ any dynomite in there and we hassle two people just trying to make living and LIVE a living, by being with friends, by making more friends.  This is plain ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    where are all the bleeding heart liberals whining for  immigrants that just want a better life in the u.s.These two just want to make a better life for themselves.They are singing songs that americans do not want to sing.Let’s give them a free college education,health care and a check to send home to mom and dad.

  • Anonymous

    YES Canadians!  Even US Border Patrol Facebooks :)

  • Anonymous

    According to some cops I knew, there are only two crimes that are ever prosecuted:  misdemeanor stupid and felony stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry you didn’t get the joke.
    Thank you Lepage for your dopey supporters, the gift that keeps on giving.

  • Anonymous

    Between this nonesense and the Roger Clemens perjury trial, is there any wonder why Barack Obama is President?

  • Anonymous

    Nothing like angry, hateful delusions.

  • kcjonez

    We are all set with alienating countries that have something we want.  We’re good with with alienating places with weird religions,  I guess it’s time to start alienating our friends–no one else is left.  

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    It’s nice to see that you at least hate ALL foreigners.  One doesn’t always get such consistency out of isolationists. :)

  • Anonymous

    Ah another dose of New World Order.

  • Anonymous

    She posted this on her FACEBOOK page ??
      from her cellfone ??
    After failing to enter the country illegally.
    2 am ?
    What The  ?????
    **************
    Bath salts.

  • Anonymous

    She posted this on her FACEBOOK page ??
      from her cellfone ??
    After failing to enter the country illegally.
    2 am ?
    What The  ?????
    **************
    Bath salts.

  • Anonymous

    Ah those wily Canadians!

  • Anonymous

    Ah those wily Canadians!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wookie-Pie/1801487975 Wookie Pie

    definately bath salts

  • Anonymous

    That has got to be one of the lamest posts I have read.

  • Anonymous

    Not a very intelligent post.

  • Anonymous

    Not a very intelligent post.

  • Anonymous

    Not a very intelligent post.

  • Anonymous

    Not a very intelligent post.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine if you were  a U.S. citizen and a performer, playing  the bar circuit. You play for tips, maybe a little of the bar’s cut of the night. You barely make ends meet but, you are doing something you love and that is what matters to you. All the sudden you fall on tough times and need to get some gigs in a hurry. Then you find out your place is taken by a Canadian who came in illeagally or worse let in by a government that you pay for (through taxes). There are a lot of unemployed U.S. musicians  out there. We don’t need Canadian ones.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine if you were  a U.S. citizen and a performer, playing  the bar circuit. You play for tips, maybe a little of the bar’s cut of the night. You barely make ends meet but, you are doing something you love and that is what matters to you. All the sudden you fall on tough times and need to get some gigs in a hurry. Then you find out your place is taken by a Canadian who came in illeagally or worse let in by a government that you pay for (through taxes). There are a lot of unemployed U.S. musicians  out there. We don’t need Canadian ones.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine if you were  a U.S. citizen and a performer, playing  the bar circuit. You play for tips, maybe a little of the bar’s cut of the night. You barely make ends meet but, you are doing something you love and that is what matters to you. All the sudden you fall on tough times and need to get some gigs in a hurry. Then you find out your place is taken by a Canadian who came in illeagally or worse let in by a government that you pay for (through taxes). There are a lot of unemployed U.S. musicians  out there. We don’t need Canadian ones.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine if you were  a U.S. citizen and a performer, playing  the bar circuit. You play for tips, maybe a little of the bar’s cut of the night. You barely make ends meet but, you are doing something you love and that is what matters to you. All the sudden you fall on tough times and need to get some gigs in a hurry. Then you find out your place is taken by a Canadian who came in illeagally or worse let in by a government that you pay for (through taxes). There are a lot of unemployed U.S. musicians  out there. We don’t need Canadian ones.

  • Anonymous

    missed mohamed atta, but making up for it now. change the border sign to welcome to the fatherland.

  • Anonymous

    Another good try, however I am not a Lepage supporter. That was a joke? You an do better.

  • Anonymous

    Another good try, however I am not a Lepage supporter. That was a joke? You an do better.

  • Anonymous

    Why should Lepage get their blame it should be the Obama Administration, the feds are the ones stopping these folks for not having the proper paperwork.  Lepage doesn’t work for the feds, if you want to blame folks blame Obama, Snowe, Collins, Michaud and Pingree for this mess they should be getting the blame.

  • Anonymous

    He does make a point we are spending money on that trial which makes little sense at all at a time when the country is nearly 15 trillion in debt.

  • Anonymous

    I feel so much safer knowing that the border guards stopped those 200 cd’s and tee shirts. Who knows what foul deeds might have come from that.  My nephews works for border patrol on the real battle zone border- Arizona/New Mexico.  He’s still trying to figure out how to get press for trivial stops that didn’t involve automatic weapons or drugs.   God Speed Das bundesgrenzschutz 

  • Anonymous

    So …..   “WE”  finally caught a “Bad Guy”   !!!
    USA-1.  Bad Guys-0.
    Go !!! Obama , Go !!!

  • Anonymous

    So …..   “WE”  finally caught a “Bad Guy”   !!!
    USA-1.  Bad Guys-0.
    Go !!! Obama , Go !!!

  • Anonymous

    So …..   “WE”  finally caught a “Bad Guy”   !!!
    USA-1.  Bad Guys-0.
    Go !!! Obama , Go !!!

  • Anonymous

    So …..   “WE”  finally caught a “Bad Guy”   !!!
    USA-1.  Bad Guys-0.
    Go !!! Obama , Go !!!

  • Anonymous

    So …..   “WE”  finally caught a “Bad Guy”   !!!
    USA-1.  Bad Guys-0.
    Go !!! Obama , Go !!!

  • Anonymous

    Really? Easy? I wish I knew the same people as you bc it took me three years to be able to legally work in the US at my hospital job! EVEN with a doc sponsoring me!   

  • listenuppeople

    How long do  illegals Oh I mean the undocumented get in jail time when comming through the southern boarder??? I like Canada and Canadians. Let her Sing!!! Maybe if she said she was comming to pick blueberries she would be allowed to bring a bus load through… ironic

  • listenuppeople

    How long do  illegals Oh I mean the undocumented get in jail time when comming through the southern boarder??? I like Canada and Canadians. Let her Sing!!! Maybe if she said she was comming to pick blueberries she would be allowed to bring a bus load through… ironic

  • PaulNotBunyan

    It’s so unfair! Struggling artists are exempt from the rules everybody else has to follow. The agents are supposed to know this and give them a break.

    Anyway, these two seem dumber than dumb. The data network connecting border crossings has been in place for many years now. Were they thinking they could try different border crossings until they hit one that wouldn’t turn them away? It probably took less than a minute for the Milltown agents to check the system and see that they needed to search the van for concert merchandise. They won’t be getting any P-visas now.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    It’s so unfair! Struggling artists are exempt from the rules everybody else has to follow. The agents are supposed to know this and give them a break.

    Anyway, these two seem dumber than dumb. The data network connecting border crossings has been in place for many years now. Were they thinking they could try different border crossings until they hit one that wouldn’t turn them away? It probably took less than a minute for the Milltown agents to check the system and see that they needed to search the van for concert merchandise. They won’t be getting any P-visas now.

  • Anonymous

    america is becoming like a commie place more and more.

  • Anonymous

    send em back to Canada where they belong!!!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    send em back to Canada where they belong!!!!!!  

  • Anonymous

    send em back to Canada where they belong!!!!!!  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1196926029 Dale Richardson

    I can’t count the number of times I’ve crossed the US-Canada border without even being required to roll my window down.  Now you need a passport and visa.  This is sad.  Maybe justified, but sad.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1196926029 Dale Richardson

    I can’t count the number of times I’ve crossed the US-Canada border without even being required to roll my window down.  Now you need a passport and visa.  This is sad.  Maybe justified, but sad.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1196926029 Dale Richardson

    I can’t count the number of times I’ve crossed the US-Canada border without even being required to roll my window down.  Now you need a passport and visa.  This is sad.  Maybe justified, but sad.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1196926029 Dale Richardson

    I can’t count the number of times I’ve crossed the US-Canada border without even being required to roll my window down.  Now you need a passport and visa.  This is sad.  Maybe justified, but sad.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1196926029 Dale Richardson

    I can’t count the number of times I’ve crossed the US-Canada border without even being required to roll my window down.  Now you need a passport and visa.  This is sad.  Maybe justified, but sad.  

  • Anonymous

    You forgot to count Bin Laden.  It was in the news.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OEFDEYGJYWX3MMI4S2QHDC5DXA Thistle

    Maybe she can collaborate with Arlo Guthrie and write a song about “The Calais Maine Border Crossing Massacree.”

  • Anonymous

    Pay no attention to the hundreds of thousands that have crossed the border down south without going through any checkpoints or providing any documentation.

  • Anonymous

    The OPEN for BUSINESS must only be at the New hampshire border

  • Anonymous

    They weren’t arrested for trying to make a living. They were arrested for lieing to customs officers. Trying to get others to lie for them. They were accorded the opportunity to return to Canada and get their paper work in order. They didn’t do that. They in fact returned and tried to pull even more wool over the eyes of customs officers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    People, make up your minds.  Do you want tough immigration laws or not?  Evidently they could have obtained H visas as needed workers or P visas as performers, but they didn’t.  Their bad.  I know it seems harmless enough in this particular instance, just a couple of folkies, probably, strumming their six-strings, but those are the rules.  Many of the comments are from people who would complain about the government not doing enough and then complain about government interference in peoples’ lives. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    People, make up your minds.  Do you want tough immigration laws or not?  Evidently they could have obtained H visas as needed workers or P visas as performers, but they didn’t.  Their bad.  I know it seems harmless enough in this particular instance, just a couple of folkies, probably, strumming their six-strings, but those are the rules.  Many of the comments are from people who would complain about the government not doing enough and then complain about government interference in peoples’ lives. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    People, make up your minds.  Do you want tough immigration laws or not?  Evidently they could have obtained H visas as needed workers or P visas as performers, but they didn’t.  Their bad.  I know it seems harmless enough in this particular instance, just a couple of folkies, probably, strumming their six-strings, but those are the rules.  Many of the comments are from people who would complain about the government not doing enough and then complain about government interference in peoples’ lives. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SCNJPPZDX7GEYELESV2YGQFLN4 Pat T. Riot

    People, make up your minds.  Do you want tough immigration laws or not?  Evidently they could have obtained H visas as needed workers or P visas as performers, but they didn’t.  Their bad.  I know it seems harmless enough in this particular instance, just a couple of folkies, probably, strumming their six-strings, but those are the rules.  Many of the comments are from people who would complain about the government not doing enough and then complain about government interference in peoples’ lives. 

  • Diogenes

    Wow, that was a close one!  Good thing they stopped those hardened criminals from smuggling their highly dangerous folk music across our sovereign borders!  I know I’ll sleep easier tonight.

  • Anonymous

    Landowner007, Canada’s admission attitude is a lot worse than the States’.
    Canada is a foreign country, Canadians wishing to enter need to follow the rules just like us “Commie Americans” do to go there.

  • Anonymous

    Which one, yours?

  • Anonymous

    This has only been going on since this president??? What flavor Kool aide is your favorite?

  • Anonymous

    I think we should blame it on the Casey Anthony jury!!

  • Anonymous

    I think we should blame it on the Casey Anthony jury!!

  • Anonymous

    And I was hoping it would be the lamest. I will try harder next time. I am sure with the President, Lepage and other political news I may have more opportunities.

  • Anonymous

    And I was hoping it would be the lamest. I will try harder next time. I am sure with the President, Lepage and other political news I may have more opportunities.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4AP5EYCYRCGZGIJGWI6TLIUEA Tom

    Next time when crossing the border or boarding an airplane, just wear a turban or a burka. The Feds will just waive ya through.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you have something on your record. My neice has been working as a traveling nurse since she graduated from Nursing school. She didn’t have any problem that I know of and her husband is able to travel with her and work here.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you have something on your record. My neice has been working as a traveling nurse since she graduated from Nursing school. She didn’t have any problem that I know of and her husband is able to travel with her and work here.

  • PBRman

     Really, why should we waste a dime of our taxpayer dollars housing them…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah they definitly broke the law by Illegally entering the United States, but at least Canadians aren’t pouring over our borders in record numbers, try moving to arizona you’ll see firsthand how bad Illegal Immigration really is.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah they definitly broke the law by Illegally entering the United States, but at least Canadians aren’t pouring over our borders in record numbers, try moving to arizona you’ll see firsthand how bad Illegal Immigration really is.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah they definitly broke the law by Illegally entering the United States, but at least Canadians aren’t pouring over our borders in record numbers, try moving to arizona you’ll see firsthand how bad Illegal Immigration really is.

  • Anonymous

    The trial makes little sense?  It is OK with you to lie under oath to Congress?  Clemons is at fault here, he lied to Congress.  He could have taken the McGwire route and told them he was not there to talk about the past.

  • Anonymous

    I am just waiting for it to come around on the guitar!

  • Anonymous

    Um, we ARE allowed to enforce our borders… all countries do that. There are rules to follow, and these two tried to pull one over on the men and women in blue… they failed.

  • Anonymous

    Um, we ARE allowed to enforce our borders… all countries do that. There are rules to follow, and these two tried to pull one over on the men and women in blue… they failed.

  • Anonymous

    Um, we ARE allowed to enforce our borders… all countries do that. There are rules to follow, and these two tried to pull one over on the men and women in blue… they failed.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, let’s send Neil Young and Joni Mitchell packing!

  • Anonymous

    If they had ben doing this back then, they would not have missed atta….

  • Anonymous

    What? Expensive? Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    The fee for a P visa is $325. If a performer wants to come into the country, they only need to pay $325, if they have ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform, they should be able to scrape $325 together pretty easily.

    The fee for an H1B visa is the same thing, so even if they are a HORRBLE performer, they can still come over here pretty easily.

    Don’t go making up stories to feed your bleeding heart, your statements were just based on lies, again.

  • Anonymous

    Um, it was CBP Officers that caught them…

  • Anonymous

    Well, I agree his post was hateful, but what was delusional? Canada is much stricter about allowing workers into their country.

  • Lori Cole

    When the border was more porous (pre 9/11) bands might have both Canadian and American members and play gigs both sides.  Now the costs and rules make that well-nigh impossible for bands that don’t make big money.  So in the end the policies affect American musicians too.  So much for cross-border exchanges.

  • Lori Cole

    When the border was more porous (pre 9/11) bands might have both Canadian and American members and play gigs both sides.  Now the costs and rules make that well-nigh impossible for bands that don’t make big money.  So in the end the policies affect American musicians too.  So much for cross-border exchanges.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    How so?

    No too long ago, my brother tried to get work in Canada (he tried for well over 4 years). His wife at the time? Natural born Canadian. Still, no permission to work. He only wanted to live with her and work somewhere close.  That was with him having a totally clean record, BTW.

    Is it true that it easy for Canadians to work here and almost impossible for U.S. citizens to work there?  I cannot say.  If so, that sounds a little unequal and perhaps we should make it more equal.

    You could elaborate a little, just saying “Not a very intelligent post” isn’t exactly . . .
    (well, perhaps you can finish the sentence.)

  • Anonymous

    Applause and admiration for the Customs and Border Protection agents.  Though it’s unfortunate, we cannot trust anyone these days and must ensure that our borders are fully protected and that all applicable laws are administered and followed.  These supposed ladies should be prevented from entering the United States for several years–by their reported deeds and actions, these liers and cheats are not entertainers I care to see here in the United States.

  • Anonymous

    Initially and on the surface I agree.  However, these supposed ladies showed their true selves–untrustworthy and will do just about anything to circumvent the law.

  • Anonymous

    Then I would suggest that you look for another country to call home; how about moving to Russia.

  • Anonymous

    Many Canadian people seem quite satisfied with their health care and outcomes and other quality of life issues ..in greater numbers than Americans’ satisfaction with theirs.
    The whole “Socialist” rant heard over and over on these pages is ridiculous and yes, is”lame.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6K3V46PWCCQGEH2TM2BDHQB74 GetYourSoxOn

    The time it took them to hide the CD’s could have been spent getting the paperwork done.

    1. Get work permits
    2. Get gigs in the US.

    That woud be too easy, so perhaps there is something else holding things up.

  • Anonymous

    Hello everyone, I represent many performers entering the U.S. to work lawfully. The actions of the two individuals were unlawful plain and simple. And, stupid.

    1. Many performers, if they join the American Federation of Musicians can obtain a P-1 Visa if they meet some performing qualifications. However, nothing is ever ‘easy’ and there has to be a lot of coordination and timing: http://www.AFM.org
    2. Performers can also obtain P-1 through an U.S. Agent. Again, the P-1 process requires a lot of coordination with Agents; Venues and timing with the USCIS which approves the petition. There is also a P visa for Culturally Unique performers. Go to the http://www.uscis.gov site and look for the P-1-3. Needless to say what you read online and how the visas are adjudicated are entirely different matters.
    3. The H-1B is not applicable to performers. In some instances the O-1 Alien of Extraordinary Ability is.
    4. Canada and the U.S. are eachothers largest trading partners. Over 4o0 Billion of trade transacts on an annual level between the two countries. Canada is the U.S. largest energy supplier. In additional, Canada is the largest foreign investor in the U.S. Many small businesses and industries accross the 49 survive because of Canadian investment. The lawful movement of people is necessary to transact this trade which also includes ‘services’. So all you Maine Canada bashers, be aware the the ‘recession’ would be even much worse if Canadian investment in Maine dried up.
    5.The largest export market for Maine is ….. Canada. http://www.trade.gov/mas/ian/statereports/states/tg_ian_002731.asp
    6. USCBP could do a much better job of policing its borders w/out intimidating Canadians. But their trainning and background are not geared toward facilitation but rather enforcement.
    Best
    Ronald A. Zisman

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    See, you say “Canada’s admission attitude is a lot worse than the States’,” and that may be true in the broad sense of immigration policy, but on an individual scale I can only think of one occasion on which I’ve had even a little trouble getting into Canada.  Coming back to my own damn country, on the other hand, I’m routinely held up, hassled, and generally made to feel like I’m suspected of being up to something.  One of the customs guys in Houlton once speculated aloud that I didn’t actually have the job I told him I had at the time, not that I can think why it’s any of their business if I’ve got one in the first place.  Did he figure I might be trying to slip into the United States in order to take illicit advantage of our superlative health care opportunities?

    Oh, no, wait, that happened the one time I encountered a slight delay entering Canada, and even then they were a lot more polite and professional about it than the frustrated mallcops we sometimes get at our own border stations. I’ve met some good ones too – the nice lady I talked to last time I was in Madawaska comes to mind – but a lot more of them seem to be angry about being there or something.  Seriously, do they get paid a bonus per minute of delay they inflict on innocent travelers?  With maybe a surcharge for making disdainful, insulting assumptions?

  • http://twitter.com/z_gryphon Ben Hutchins

    See, you say “Canada’s admission attitude is a lot worse than the States’,” and that may be true in the broad sense of immigration policy, but on an individual scale I can only think of one occasion on which I’ve had even a little trouble getting into Canada.  Coming back to my own damn country, on the other hand, I’m routinely held up, hassled, and generally made to feel like I’m suspected of being up to something.  One of the customs guys in Houlton once speculated aloud that I didn’t actually have the job I told him I had at the time, not that I can think why it’s any of their business if I’ve got one in the first place.  Did he figure I might be trying to slip into the United States in order to take illicit advantage of our superlative health care opportunities?

    Oh, no, wait, that happened the one time I encountered a slight delay entering Canada, and even then they were a lot more polite and professional about it than the frustrated mallcops we sometimes get at our own border stations. I’ve met some good ones too – the nice lady I talked to last time I was in Madawaska comes to mind – but a lot more of them seem to be angry about being there or something.  Seriously, do they get paid a bonus per minute of delay they inflict on innocent travelers?  With maybe a surcharge for making disdainful, insulting assumptions?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJJB4XHAMZLXQVNALEYLZQBU4A Paul H

    Ok – so you want to sit there and judge each request by your standards?  Get the right papers and don’t lie.  Seems simple enough.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJJB4XHAMZLXQVNALEYLZQBU4A Paul H

    What will the standard be for causing harm and who is going to look at each case and make that determination? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJJB4XHAMZLXQVNALEYLZQBU4A Paul H

    What will the standard be for causing harm and who is going to look at each case and make that determination? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJJB4XHAMZLXQVNALEYLZQBU4A Paul H

    So you’re complaining because they did it right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJJB4XHAMZLXQVNALEYLZQBU4A Paul H

    So you’re complaining because they did it right?

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Critics abound here, but they should try entering Canada under the same circumstances and see what happens. I’ll put your photo on a batch of CD’s and loan you a few musical instruments. Drive up north and give it a try. Good luck and have a safe trip.

  • PaulNotBunyan

    Critics abound here, but they should try entering Canada under the same circumstances and see what happens. I’ll put your photo on a batch of CD’s and loan you a few musical instruments. Drive up north and give it a try. Good luck and have a safe trip.

  • Anonymous

    i think you hit the nail on the head with [ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform] i listened to them on youtube. ugh. wouldn’t make it past 1st audition on americas got talent.

  • Anonymous

    i think you hit the nail on the head with [ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform] i listened to them on youtube. ugh. wouldn’t make it past 1st audition on americas got talent.

  • Anonymous

    i think you hit the nail on the head with [ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform] i listened to them on youtube. ugh. wouldn’t make it past 1st audition on americas got talent.

  • Anonymous

    i think you hit the nail on the head with [ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform] i listened to them on youtube. ugh. wouldn’t make it past 1st audition on americas got talent.

  • Anonymous

    i think you hit the nail on the head with [ANY musical ability or someone wants to hear them perform] i listened to them on youtube. ugh. wouldn’t make it past 1st audition on americas got talent.

  • Anonymous

    lets all prance around and pat ourselves on the back for stopping 2 girls who stink at music from getting in.  pay no attention to the FLOOD OF “illegal” people washing in through the south. someone please tell the emperor he has no clothes on!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • Anonymous

    After learning that border patrol can seize your electronics without a court
    order and that the ‘border’ extends into Maine for 100 miles, I sadly think
    I’m in agreement with you. We’ve lost so much privacy in our quest for
    safety. Trading liberty for safety. Sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/susan.b.clark Sue

    Any passage to and from Canada needs to be free and clear. We are friends with the country, and it’s not exactly a hotbed of terrorism. 

    This story does indeed need to go national.

  • http://twitter.com/TheGuardianMH The Guardian

    Most terrorists probably have all the right paperwork – they have $$$ to get the documents. 

  • http://twitter.com/TheGuardianMH The Guardian

    Most terrorists probably have all the right paperwork – they have $$$ to get the documents. 

  • Anonymous

    That is not necessarily true.  I live in the US and work in Canada.  The issue lies with the Canadian employer who must fill out a lot of paperwork.  They also have to prove that no Canadian was qualified/able to take the job.  There is a major issue and that is workmens compensation.  Canadian workmens compensation pays only for lost wages, not medical care, while US compensation pays for lost wages and medical care.  This is a large issue with Canadian employers who may individually be responsible for medical care for an American injured on the job in Canada.  An American would have to rely on his own health insurance, which, may or not pay for a job injury in Canada.   There is a large gray area here.

    Try crossing the border back into the US with a Canadian work permit.   I have been held up, searched, questioned, and harassed by US border guards numerous times.   I cross the same border every day,  Monday through Friday.   Most of the guards know me by sight, however they must go through the motions.   Occasionally on a particularly bad day some of the guards are especially nasty.  After the 3rd search of my vehicle, I asked them if they were just bored.  I cross at a border that has less than 200 cars cross daily.

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