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Ending collective bargaining rights paves way for labor strife

Protests continue in Wisconsin over the governor's proposal to eliminate collective bargaining for state employees.
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Protests continue in Wisconsin over the governor's proposal to eliminate collective bargaining for state employees.
Posted March 10, 2011, at 8:30 p.m.
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Whether or not it is time to write organized labor’s obituary remains to be seen. But if unions and their chief tool, collective bargaining, become feeble and infirm in the coming years, 2011 will be a key date to remember.

Journalist Philip Dray, author of “There is Power in a Union: The Epic Story of Labor in America,” points out some other key dates. Those include the late 19th century, 1935 and 1981.

The union movement rose out of the late 19th century when those working in textile mills began to join together to demand better working conditions.

“In the mid-19th century,” Mr. Dray said in a recent interview, “the campaign was for the 10-hour work day. People said, ‘We don’t have time to buy the products we’re making. We don’t have time to even become citizens. We don’t have time to read the Bible.’ So it became a very compelling argument. And the hours argument was one that union always did fairly well with, even though it took many years to get them in the law books.”

In fact, the six-day workweek was common until the Great Depression. The 40-hour workweek wasn’t widely established until the 1940s. Of course, wages, safe working conditions and later benefits such as holidays, vacations, overtime pay, health insurance and retirement pensions became issues for negotiation.

Many believe pure market dynamics should rule the labor-employer relationship. If certain skills are in great demand and short supply, they assert, wages and benefits will rise to lure them. But the evidence, time and time again, was that too many people suffered too greatly under this model. Society functioned better with people earning living wages and working under safe conditions. So government, at the behest of citizens, intervened and created workplace safety and child labor laws, minimum wage, overtime and benefit schedules and, chief among these, the right to bargain collectively.

When a majority of workers formed a bargaining unit, the employer was bound by law to recognize that group and negotiate in good faith with it. Collective bargaining rights were enshrined in the federal Labor Relations Act in 1935. In 1962, federal law extended collective bargaining rights to federal employees.

Mr. Dray points to the federal air traffic controller strike of 1981 as a turning point. When more than 12,000 workers struck, President Ronald Reagan asserted they had violated the law as essential public safety workers and said he would fire them if they didn’t return to work within 48 hours. They did not, and he fired them.

The president replaced the union air traffic controllers with non-union workers.

Unions were born of industrial work, where large numbers of people worked and lived in close quarters. In the modern economy, where people work in smaller shops, organizing is more difficult. Union membership nationally is down by 80 percent since the mid-1950s; only about 12 percent of workers belong to a labor union.

If the trend of states stripping public sector workers of their collective bargaining rights holds, the American work place will indeed enter a new — or return to an old — era, one that is bound to be rife with conflict.

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  • Anonymous

    Many of the unions have outlived their usefullness. There was a time in our history that they were needed and they did a good job. Those days are long gone. They’ve turned into greedy, progressive, power-hungry thugs. It’s time to put them out to pasture.

  • Anonymous

    The corporate-fascist pigs and their lapdog politicians are stirring up a hornet’s nest. The working men and women of this country aren’t going to take it anymore. We will march, protest, and fight. To arms brothers and sisters! We need to take to the streets and get a little bloody. The time has come for us to take what is ours.

  • http://www.infowars.com Pat Riote

    Take what is yours? What exactly is “yours” sir? Is it something of mine? Your neighbor? Will you take whatever it is you intend to take by force? Or do you intend on being violent, for the sake of being violent? Stealing is wrong, and so is bloodshed. You walk a dangerous path, and you risk wrongdoing against innocent people.

    Besides, if you think that leaders of corporate America are the only problem, you are gravely mistaken. Your wages buy less and less with each passing day, not because you aren’t working hard enough, but because of inflation. Inflation reduces the purchasing power of your money. Who, then, is responsible for the inflation? Answer that question and you have the answer to most of the problems we face here in America.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Unions need to be reasonable and flexible in their negotiations. If their contractual policy is bankrupting a business or a City/State, then they need to be flexible enough to admit that their contract is unsustainable, and for the good of all people, union and non union alike, make some adjustments. Unions are currently unwilling to make adjustments and are stubbornly holding on to unsustainable positions – we’ll have to see how it all works out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SHNOU64ZBOBIKWUF5IM6WSH7WA entitled4life

    Sound too violent to me.

  • Anonymous

    TROLL

  • Anonymous

    Taxpayers pay the wages for public sector jobs.Am I correct?Alright then,in the case of collective bargaining rights put it in the hands of the people.Put it to a referendum vote,let’s get it right.I personally believe if taxpayers fund these jobs,then we should have our say!

  • Anonymous

    unionman4ever, nice trolling. Which one of the MHPC minions are you?

  • Anonymous

    Greedy Unions……
    They lost big time on this one..

  • Anonymous

    Unions have become nothing more than a bureaucracy that protects laziness & protects democrat votes. It’s a system that discourages personal performance & does not reward merit. Unions have busted this country financially & ethically. The exorbitant costs of union inefficiencies killed the manufacturing sector & have rendered the public sector unsustainable. It’s time to scrap the known failure that is unions.

  • Anonymous

    Sockpuppet.

  • Anonymous

    “only about 12 percent of workers belong to a labor union.” ~~~~ BDN

    And more than 50% of those work in the government sector where they work to increase your taxes, extend their influence into your private life, restrict economic growth and in education the union leadership is far more concerned with protecting and enhancing their power than educating the children.

  • Anonymous

    The rich made their money by climbing over the sweaty, broken bodies of the people who worked for them. You work all your life, and for what? A busted back and a meager pension? All so your fat boss can have a winter home in Florida and vacation in Hawaii?

    Enough is enough. It’s not their money, it’s ours. It’s time for us to get ours.

  • Anonymous

    Fine don’t go the aggressive route. There are other ways.

    If they cut staff and cut wages, why should you bust your hump? Slow it down, drag out the work. When the lines at the DMV get longer and longer, the people will demand government spend more for better services.

    If the fat cats and corporate elites don’t want to pay, have them pay in other ways. Accidents happen, people call in sick, machines break down. You get my drift.

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    When Calvin Coolidge was governing Mass, he believed that public employees did not possess the right to strike against the people. Unions afterall were brought about with government blessings to protect the people from their wealthy employers. Government agents seeking better work conditions from other government agents didn’t strike the people of Boston as the same as coal miners fighting for the right to live until they retired. The AFL convinced the police union that public support was with the government and the strike ended. It seems odd to me that the same people who for constantly bemoan the uncaring DHS worker, police brutality, Larry Darrell and Darrell sitting next to their orange barrels, and insist on home schooling their children because our teachers are not good enough for them are now coming forth in solidarity for these same people. The corrections officer mentioned in one post did not quit because of lack of benefit. He quit because he got tired of doing an impossible job under the constant accusation of abusing the people who hate him. Where were all you people over the past decade when these people’s retirement was going down the tube? Just like the anti-war protesters that disappeared when Obama became president. You appeared in their place when LePage became governor. And you are as transparent as the government you seek.

  • Anonymous

    And where have your concessions and re-negotiations gotten you? The mills are still closing, the elites still ship the jobs overseas. You said it, union membership is down to 12%!

    Enough is enough. The system is broken and it’s taking the working men and women down with it. We have to fight back. Sabotage the system any way you can.

  • Anonymous

    That’s the real deal, Baby. You must have heard Jesse Jackson, speaking from Wisconsin yesterday, saying the same things. Union Bosses all over the country, espousing the same rhetoric, have framed the national debate as the Unions versus Republicans and corporate greed.

    Union solidarity will win the battle for the working man! They have only begun to fight the epic war.

    I just wish they would begin their postings with: Dear Taxpayers of Maine,

  • Anonymous

    ROFLMAO!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I just love people like you putting out their opinion. Beautiful.

  • Anonymous

    He is likely a college kid that has never worked a day in his life.

  • Anonymous

    Its not the private sector union that I have a problem with. That is a market force that generally takes care of itself. It is the public sector unions i have a problem with. They finance Democrat campaigns, get them elected then negotiate with the very people they put in power… its a bad system invites corruption and is not in the best interest of the majority of people.

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again, the BDN chumming the shark tank with blood. Have you visited the city limits of Union dominated Detroit recently or the unemployment lines in the non-right to work states? This is not so much about Union negotiations with private businesses, it’s all about corrupt Public Union thugs in the government sector seeding politicians with campaign cash extorted from the naive membership to ensure the trump card is played in labor contracts that benefit only 12% of the labor force and allow the union leadership to live large. The BDN would do better if they published the salaries, pensions, and perks of the corrupt union leadership.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Taxpayers of Maine,

    “Sabotage the system anyway you can.” is Union-speak, which loosely translated means, Tax the crap out of everything until Unions get their way and the heck with the consequences. The wealth of the nation belongs to Unions!

    Don’t we all wish we could buy products made in America? I know I do, but sadly, I couldn’t afford them. Unions refuse to admit that their demands for higher and higher wages and benefits forced jobs out of this country. Now they blame everyone but themselves.

  • Anonymous

    Companys will still ship jobs over seas even if they give up benefits an wages . When they work for 2 dollars a day would you ship your work over seas ?? Even with shipping goods can’t be made here even if everyone worked for minimum wages an no benefits

  • Anonymous

    Please tell me, with a straight face, that politicians (primarily democrats) can negotiate with the unions in good faith (for the taxpayers), when their campaign chests are full of union donations. I’m talking about government employees! The facts are very clear; they cannot. Unions have no place in government!

  • Anonymous

    In my opinion, it’s not that unions have outgrown their usefulness, but instead that they have grown too big for their britches. They serve a purpose in protecting the interests of the employee with little voice. As the article stated, without them many of the employment practices we all take for granted wouldn’t exist and for that reason I wouldn’t want them to go away. But the bosses (and members) need to remember that there is a difference between protecting worker rights (still a valuable asset of unions) and expanding worker rights beyond the ability of the employing organization to thrive.

    And yes, they’re corrupt and members should demand the corruption be routed out. That by itself would go a long way to restoring their standing.

  • newportres

    If you want blood there are most likely enough of us against your Unions shutting men who want to work out that you will get your wish.
    This isn’t the old days and you will learn that.

  • newportres

    I have yet to see a sweaty broken body in any NON-Union shop I have ever worked in.
    As for the rich, they invested and risked their hard earned cash in much greater proportion than any single employee or even all of the employees for that matter.
    You were paid a wage for your labor and he owes you nothing more.
    Move on.

  • newportres

    Just listening to you is an advertisement against Unions.

  • Harry H Snyder III

    Tell me that the people running SOME unions are self-serving louts, and I’l agree wholeheartedly. Tell me unions are antiquated relics of an era (now gone) when workers were exploited, and I’ll laugh in your face.

    Now this minute, today, in Maine, a worker can be FORCED on pain of termination to work up to 80 hours a week. No employer is required to take into consideration the fact that young children may need a parent at home (during the 40 overtime hours) or a sick, old disabled parent may be in a cold house alone. The employer is NOT required to give notice that overtime will be required which might allow an employee time to get childcare or elder care.

    Until the recently (union sponsored) Family Leave Act a woman could be fired for getting pregnant, and a man could be fired if he was too injured or sick to come in to work. Parents could be fired if their children were too sick for them to get to work. This meant that they lost their health-care benefits when they needed them most.

    Today, in Maine it is cheaper for an employer to risk not acquiring some safety equipment than it is to have a worker injured. In a workman’s compensation hearing the employer has legal representation, but workers have a hard time finding a lawyer in their price range who will represent them.

    There is lots of work for unions to do, my complaint is that they are not doing it.

    BTW the 6-day work-week is still the standard in some jobs and in some areas.

  • Anonymous

    Leave it to Beaverfood to point out the obvious!

    When it came time to negotiate contracts with the Public Employee’s Union, there are were Democrats sitting on both sides of the bargaining table!

    The Taxpayer never stood a chance!

  • Anonymous

    You never miss the weekly Communist meeting do you?

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    The problem with anonymous posting is that no one really knows if you are truly the radical union fighter you claim to be, or a conserative poster trying to give credance to your preconceive notions about union employees. Though I may be conservative, I have in the past work in a trade union, and I have since worked with trade unions. I have never encountered the methods you subscribe to. Therefore, I believe the latter applies to you.

  • Anonymous

    You do have your say. You vote for/elect people to represent the taxpayers (senators, representatives, school board members, etc).

  • Anonymous

    SOME unions are unwilling to make adjustments while some are. There are contracts negotiated all the time that may not have pay raises, etc in them.

    I am no huge fan of unions, but I will say this regarding public sector jobs (govt, education).

    It seems to me that years ago, the feeling was government jobs did not pay as well, but at least you had medical care and some kind of retirement.

    Now it seems that government workers are loathed by all private sector people because they have healthcare and some kind of retirement. Now, I do understand the shock and outrage over some unions. I work in education and seeing what WIsconsin taxpayers were paying is astounding (Maine taxpayers are not paying NEARLY the load that WI taxpayers were paying for teacher healthcare and retirement.

    Private sector seems to want it both ways.

    When times are good and private sector may make more than public sector jobs, the private sector people will say “hey, you went in to teaching, you knew what you were getting into”

    Now when budgets are tight, it has turned in to basically people in the public sector need to be reined in because they are doing too well compared to the private sector.

    Remember, the number of public sector jobs has shrunk too (school districts have been downsizing due to budgets the past few years and they will continue also due to lower enrollments as Maine has fewer school aged children than it did years ago.

    I have stated before, especially for teachers….there are MANY districts in the state where teachers still make very little money (compared to their level of education) and might have to work there for 15-20 years before getting any significant raise.

    All of the teacher salary scales are available online (google MEA uniserv or something like that. You can see them. While I am sure some of the salary scales will shock some with the higher salaries. There are far more that will shock you due to the low salaries, especially after 10-15-20 years.

  • Anonymous

    Unions do not get everything that they want. There have been times state employees have not gotten raises and when they did they were small 1 1/2% to 2%. If your statement that unions got everything the wanted don’t you think that there would have been raises every year and bigger ones at that.

  • Anonymous

    When more than 12,000 workers struck, President Ronald Reagan asserted they had violated the law as essential public safety workers and said he would fire them if they didn’t return to work within 48 hours. They did not, and he fired them. ~~~~~ BDN

    The BDN is not presenting this story in an accurate light. They are misleading the readers.
    They did not note that each of the PATCO employees has to sign the following statement when taking the job.

    “I am not participating in any strike against the Government of the United States or any agency thereof, and I will not so participate while an employee of the Government of the United States or any agency thereof.”
    Each PATCO employee signed that statement and over 10% air traffic controllers held true to that oath and crossed the picket line and went to work. The union leadership led these people astray and the common worker that crossed the line paid the price.

    Also another “mistake” by the BDN misleading its readers.
    In 1962, federal law extended collective bargaining rights to federal employees. ~~~~BDN

    True enough I suppose, but not the whole story.
    President Jimmy Carter ended collective bargaining for Federal Employees with “”The Civil Service Reform Act of 1978″

    If the BDN is going to form an opinion it would help if they presented it in light of real world events.

  • Anonymous

    You probably spend time with the old timers. It’s painful to speak against fellow brothers, but when it comes to the old guys, they’ve gone soft. Go along to get along, swallow the cut backs, make concessions. Easy for them to do, they are the ones who get to stay— at least for a while. It’s the young members who get thrown out on their ear.

    Yet, with concession after concession, we just keep falling behind. The jobs keep going overseas, wages and benefits get cut. And we get to be the fall guy for everything wrong in America.

    Well, we’ve had enough! Wisconsin has shown us once and for all you can’t play nice anymore.

    So we say, “No more!”. It’s back to our roots. You say you’ve never seen such methods? You’ll be seeing them now! Blue flu, slowdowns, short-pay = short-work, and more. The future is our past, we’re going back to the methods our brothers used a century ago to create the middle class. Flynn taught the boys how to do it in the early 1900′s, and we’ll learn from her today.

    You may have been union once, maybe you’ve betrayed your brothers and sisters now. I don’t care if you believe in me. It only takes an handful of people to bring about the revolution. I just need to reach a few, make them think. “What if the revolution starts with me?”

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    Before you try and make them think, you may want to learn to do it yourself. Your silly little notions of revolution is nothing new. Blue flu, wobbling, and slowdowns have never worked and only resulted in a loss of respect for the American craftsman and a distrust of unions. The old timers you speak of already know this is true. That is why they wisely try to reason with you. And it is very unsettling to discover that your are not a right wing trouble maker. At least that would have made a little sense.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I’ve heard Union guys say, almost boasting, that their boss can’t make them do any job other than their own. I’ve always felt that my ability and willingness to do whatever my boss wants makes me a more valuable employee. In fact I’ve been told so on my performance reviews. I’ve seen public sector performance reviews and they are a joke.

  • Anonymous

    Which Rich are you talking about? Bill Gates? John Kerry? Al Gore ? George Soros?
    Warren Buffett? Or Maybe Walter Cronkite, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, or George Clooney?

  • Anonymous

    Your words are almost appropriate for 1920. As well as for the PRIVATE SECTOR. Attitude like yours, the only way you could keep a job is with the ridicules protection the union provides

  • Anonymous

    In What world does Jesse Jackson bring credibility to any discussion.?

  • Anonymous

    When I was younger, I worked part time for a UPS hub and MASS. I witnessed workers not showing up or calling in for a week straight. Come back the following Monday and right back to work after a little talk with management and a shop steward. That same person did the same thing a few weeks later. Still had a job. Care to explain this? That same hub was paying an additional 50 dollars a week if you showed up all 5 days. in other words. they had to give incentives to get the employees to do what they were being paid for in the first place. That was my one and only experience with a Union. It wasn’t some small shop, it was UPS. I have a friend currently in a union. He readily admits that the uion has made it’s member’s liveS VERY easy and couldn’t defend them if asked. He’s fortunate, he knows it, but he realizes as he has said, “the gravy train is going to run out sometime. ” That’s a direct quote.. Spare me your nonsensicle babbling.

  • Anonymous

    Whatever your stand on unions, good bad or in between – would someone explain what the point is in trying to eliminate collective bargaining rights? Why can’t Wisconsin – or whoever – just say no at the table when they meet to bargain? Why do the rights need to be removed?

  • Anonymous

    Many state employees go above and beyond what is expected of them, with no appreciation or recognition. They somehow get pushed aside in these articles and comments. All you read about are the lazy ones, which is too bad.

  • Anonymous

    Well it’s not as though we didn’t already know where the out of touch deluded staff of the BDN stood on this issue.

    It may seem unkind to show them the door once they’ve outlived their usefullness. Our country has benefitted because of them. But the fact is that federal law now covers working conditions. Vacation and sick time, wages, safety. 88 percent of the population seem to be able to live without the protection of a union. The five percent in the private sector can fend for themselves. What they chose to do or not do is none of the taxpayer’s busines. How dare anyone suggest that the 7 percent being told, “Sorry, you can’t have your way all the time anymore” signify the end of middle class. THEY ARE SEVEN PERCENT!! The tiresome whining of those not in the union defending them doesn’t even make any sense. This has been turned into a REPUBLICANv. DEMOCRATIC, party issue by those with something to lose. The only rational reason for any member of the DNC to support them is because they have been told that unions are huge supporters of their own party. Beyond that they are fighting to give more of their own tax money away. How crazy is that? Students have been manipulated, used as a tool by the teachers in particular. Which in my opinion is shameful. I have an idea, why don’t those same kids ask their parents what they think? I suspect many would have a different take then the teachers.

  • Anonymous

    I know that. I’m not saying all Union Workers and definitly not all State Union Workers. My wife is retired State Worker and she was hardworking and productive. The problem with Government is that there are are too many employees. Its not the employees fault its the sytem. There is no incentive for efficiency. The Unions have the goal of growing their membership which means more State Employees which goes against the Taxpayers interest, which is lower cost more efficient government.

  • Anonymous

    I see how it is. “I have never encountered the methods you subscribe to.”, but then you bust out with a wobble reference.
    You say you used to be union? What do you mean, “used to be”, you are or you aren’t. Time is here when you have to choose. Are you with the workers or the bosses? Come back and join arms with your brothers and sisters. Get down with the struggle.

  • Anonymous

    What are you talking about? Think I care anything for rich Democrats or so-called liberals? The politics is all a game. People sqauwk about the D’s and R’s and bicker over parties. Meanwhile, the rich are stealing your way of life.

    There’s 2 kinds of people in this world. Working class and employment class. The bosses have been gorging themselves on the fruits of the working man’s labor for far to long. It is far past time for the working men and women of the world to rise up and take back what they built.

  • Anonymous

    Is there a law to cover from being fired for no reason so there brother can have that job ??

  • http://twitter.com/jeffdavisme Jeff Davis

    I quit the union when it became a liberal pac. My vote belongs to me; not to my employer, not to the union.

  • Anonymous

    At it’s most basic the question is:

    When they want to ask for a pay raise should employees be required to do it one at a time or should the be allowed to ask as a group?

    It seems only logical that they should be allowed to do so as a group if they want. That’s collective bargaining.

    A law that says employees can’t ask for a pay raise as a group seems unreasonable to me.

    So, if they can ask as a group, instead of just one at a time, how will that group be organized? What constitutes a group? How does the group operate? If the group is able to make a deal with the employer, is that a contract? How can the contract be enforced?

    Soon you have a collective bargaining law.

    I don’t see how name calling addresses the question.

  • Anonymous

    I would suggest your as likely if not more so, to see nepotism in a union shop as anywhere else.

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